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Official CU vs. Kansas Game Thread 11/23/24

letsgoavs192 said:
Win Friday. Getting the help we need is not as far fetched as it seems.

First off BYU is not that good especially the last 4 weeks. I think there is a 30% chance Houston wins that game. So there's that

If they don't I think good chance KSU beats Iowa State. And if they do we just need U of A to beat ASU....I live in Phoenix and went to ASU, Buffs are my #1 not even close. That is a blood rivalry game with a history of the weaker team winning especially when they are at home. Could very well happen.

But let's win and put the pressure on.
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It looks like there's still a chance with CU, Ch@rds and UH wins.
"There are a lot of complicated scenarios that could play out with potential 4-team ties, etc., but here are the simplest clinching scenarios entering this week's conference games, according to the Big 12.

The Big 12 announced that a four-way tie at 7-2 between ASU, BYU, Colorado and Iowa State would see Arizona State vs Iowa State in Arlington. ASU would get the top spot for being 4-0 vs. common opponents while Iowa State would get the second spot for having a stronger conference strength of schedule over BYU.

In a two-team tie scenario, the two tied teams at 7-2 would be the championship game participants.

As for three-team tie scenarios, Arizona State and Iowa State would get in with a Colorado loss, Iowa State and BYU would get in with an ASU loss, ASU and BYU would get in with an Iowa State loss.

If BYU were to lose, that is where things would get interesting, with Colorado and Iowa State making the title game if Texas Tech defeated West Virginia and then Baylor defeated Kansas and Cincinnati beat TCU. Otherwise, it would be Colorado vs Arizona State.

However, if West Virginia beat Texas Tech, it would be Arizona State against Kansas State in the Big 12 championship game."
 
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Seriously, people, let's move on. We got outplayed. It happens. We're not a playoff team yet, but we're getting closer.

Look at the progress we've made under Prime in just one year. The future is bright, and we'll be contending for championships sooner rather than later.

So let's stop the bitching and enjoy the ride. We're building something special here.
 
patebuff said:
It's not a coincidence the two best rushing attacks CU faced this year ended up in loses.

The defense was great for most of the season and I have no complaints there, but when KSU and KU needed yards on the ground, they got it.
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It was the QB run threat that killed us. Both KU and KSU had that. UCF to a certain extent, but Jefferson is not nearly the same threat as is Daniels and Johnson.
 
Alfred91 said:
Man - ****ing dmac can be such a douche. He is trying his best to turn Prime's 'smelling our own success' comment into him blaming the kids for a loss when it was really a coaching failure.

Luckily Polumbus is shutting him down at every turn. Even Hastings is saying dmac is being dumb.
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Hasn't that dude had a burr up his ass about CU for a long time? I could be wrong, I don't know much about that peckerhead other than hearing his name tossed around quite a bit over the years.
 
Hank said:
It was the QB run threat that killed us. Both KU and KSU had that. UCF to a certain extent, but Jefferson is not nearly the same threat as is Daniels and Johnson.
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I'd say QB scrambles were a bigger issue all year for CU. However, that wasn't the case in the KU game. They simply got what they wanted in the run game. RB or QB runs
 
patebuff said:
I'd say QB scrambles were a bigger issue all year for CU. However, that wasn't the case in the KU game. They simply got what they wanted in the run game. RB or QB runs
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But the QB run threat causes defenders to hesitate and second-guess whether they attack the RB. And that was all that Neal needed to carve up our defense.

Somehow, BYU held KU to 73 yards rushing last week. Who knows if it was personnel or scheme. And it was a home game.
 
BuffUp said:
I think CP is correct. Our players came in to the game not taking it serious enough. They got caught reading the hype and making future plans. Got our butt's kicked. CP nailed it in his post game speach.
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During his 1st half interview, Prime said that they knew what play was coming but weren't executing assignments or tackling.

Not much you can do when your DL is on skates.
 
BUFFset said:
It looks like there's still a chance with CU, Ch@rds and UH wins.
"There are a lot of complicated scenarios that could play out with potential 4-team ties, etc., but here are the simplest clinching scenarios entering this week's conference games, according to the Big 12.

The Big 12 announced that a four-way tie at 7-2 between ASU, BYU, Colorado and Iowa State would see Arizona State vs Iowa State in Arlington. ASU would get the top spot for being 4-0 vs. common opponents while Iowa State would get the second spot for having a stronger conference strength of schedule over BYU.

In a two-team tie scenario, the two tied teams at 7-2 would be the championship game participants.

As for three-team tie scenarios, Arizona State and Iowa State would get in with a Colorado loss, Iowa State and BYU would get in with an ASU loss, ASU and BYU would get in with an Iowa State loss.

If BYU were to lose, that is where things would get interesting, with Colorado and Iowa State making the title game if Texas Tech defeated West Virginia and then Baylor defeated Kansas and Cincinnati beat TCU. Otherwise, it would be Colorado vs Arizona State.

However, if West Virginia beat Texas Tech, it would be Arizona State against Kansas State in the Big 12 championship
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Corey Trevorson said:
How am I missing the point? The PFF grade is holistic of the 2024 season & per Yak's numbers the D has held the opponent below their average except for 2 games.

PFF Rush Grade: 85.5, 41st
D Rush EPA/play: 0.056, 36th
D Rush Success Rate: 40%, 50th

None of the complete season analytics back the statements.
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If you can coherently state what I'm saying, then I'll respond to you.
 
PAHIBuff said:
Not to be too critical but this year the Buffs have been a “basketball on grass” outfit rather than a complete offense. It has worked enough times to make ourselves feel pretty good. Our run defense is predictably abysmal in games since we obviously don’t practice much against the run.

The B12 is weird and we bought into it. The first B12 team that has a consistently stout balanced offense and a quality defense can dominate this rag tag pirate conference. Let’s be that team.

I think our competition long term will be the Kansas schools and ISU. That’s where it appears the other good coaches are.
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Add ASU to that. Dillingham can coach.
 
BuffLuke80 said:
Hasn't that dude had a burr up his ass about CU for a long time? I could be wrong, I don't know much about that peckerhead other than hearing his name tossed around quite a bit over the years.
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Mostly he's Mr. Stir the Pot guy and he figures off he ****s on Prime, he's going to get people pissed off and boost engagement.

Having said that, I'm pretty sure one of his kids ended up at ASU because he didn't get into CU and that has colored his opinion ever since.
 
I agree with Prime that our men just weren’t playing their game. Missed tackles, slow moving defense, etc. look like they were all surprised to be playing football Saturday.

I’ll take it a step further. Prime was a unicorn player and it takes unicorns or near-unicorns to play for him. It isn’t just talent. It feels like he sometimes assumes that the players are as in love with the game and the work and the grind as he was and it almost surprises him sometimes when they don’t hit that standard. It feels like a bit of a blind (maybe overstating it a bit) spot for him.

He has to come to grips with the fact that very few people maintain the level of commitment and discipline that he does over time. People can spike to his standard but it’s gonna take a lot from him and his staff to keep them there. And many just can’t.
 
Agent Dave Kujan said:
Which begs the question, If he is so good, why did they lose 6 games?
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I think it took Daniels a while to get back to normal from his injury last year. I could be wrong but I think they are currently the best team in the Big 12.

They are mostly one dimensional this year and it is still Kansas, so what he has done there has been pretty amazing.
 
LaserDeathHawk said:
I agree with Prime that our men just weren’t playing their game. Missed tackles, slow moving defense, etc. look like they were all surprised to be playing football Saturday.

I’ll take it a step further. Prime was a unicorn player and it takes unicorns or near-unicorns to play for him. It isn’t just talent. It feels like he sometimes assumes that the players are as in love with the game and the work and the grind as he was and it almost surprises him sometimes when they don’t hit that standard. It feels like a bit of a blind (maybe overstating it a bit) spot for him.

He has to come to grips with the fact that very few people maintain the level of commitment and discipline that he does over time. People can spike to his standard but it’s gonna take a lot from him and his staff to keep them there. And many just can’t.
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I would agree that Prime and guys like him are completely unfamiliar with someone not being mentally ready to compete. That's as fundamental as breathing to him.
 


Those ****ers on Reddit are so mad Shedeur isn’t getting suspended for touching an official but it’s crickets about the KU player who went for Shedeur’s knees.

(On a side note, there is a Nebraska fan who made a joke about how hopefully Shedeur doesn’t get drafted into the AFC West because of his poor record against teams from Kansas. I wouldn’t expect someone who roots for “N is for nowledge” university to know that Kansas City is in Missouri).
 
Hank said:
But the QB run threat causes defenders to hesitate and second-guess whether they attack the RB. And that was all that Neal needed to carve up our defense.

Somehow, BYU held KU to 73 yards rushing last week. Who knows if it was personnel or scheme. And it was a home game.
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But also tackling.
 
patebuff said:
Leipold is the best coach in the Big 12, imo.
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They were a very well coached team and executed like it. They played great, clean, and hard football in all three phases. Kansas may of had some growing pains through the season, but by week 11 the staff and players had a ton of stuff figured out. Clearly, the coaches video study, game-plan and in game adjustments were right-on. The stuff that they implemented was on Que.
 
cnbuff410 said:
Seriously, people, let's move on. We got outplayed. It happens. We're not a playoff team yet, but we're getting closer.

Look at the progress we've made under Prime in just one year. The future is bright, and we'll be contending for championships sooner rather than later.

So let's stop the bitching and enjoy the ride. We're building something special here.
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Being there watching it up close to the field and watching it on TV finally, I did not think CU s**t the bed by any means. KU neutralized the L/O/S minimizing TFL and sacks. On offense they stayed on decent downs and distances... They varied the gaps they ran, and the rbs hits those gaps. I would agree that we did not tackle great, however there were not a ton of clean hits to be had either. I agree that "we we're not playing our game," but KU took us out of our game. On D we tried a bunch of different things, but they countered, did not miss assignments and we could not really find a weakness either.

They neutralized our O with 7 possessions, and shut down areas where we wanted to run certain plays. It happens.
 
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GRM said:
Being there watching it up close to the field and watching it on TV finally, I did not think CU s**t the bed by any means. KU neutralized the L/O/S minimizing TFL and sacks. On offense they stayed on decent downs and distances... They varied the gaps they ran, and the rbs hits those gaps. I would agree that we did not tackle great, however there were not a ton of clean hits to be had either. I agree that "we we're not playing our game," but KU took us out of our game. On D we tried a bunch of different things, but they countered, did not miss assignments and we could not really find a weakness either.

They neutralized our O with 7 possessions, and shut down areas where we wanted to run certain plays. It happens.
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Wait, you can run the ball through different gaps? Better tell Shurmur
 
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