ahoelsken
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The presidents of UCLA, Stanford, and Cal were on record at the time (this was in the Post's piece the day the Pac 12 move was made) as not being for any Pac 12 expansion that did not involve CU.
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Official realignment thread - SEC formally invites OU and Texas to join the conference in 2025
The presidents of UCLA, Stanford, and Cal were on record at the time (this was in the Post's piece the day the Pac 12 move was made) as not being for any Pac 12 expansion that did not involve CU.
Not a single one of these GoRs has been challenged in court yet. I'll believe they mean something after that happens.Not happening. The ACC's GoR (which now includes the ACC Network) runs into 2035-36. We're the only school that remotely moves the needle that the B1G could get.
Conference expansion: What should Big Ten do if SEC adds Oklahoma, Texas?
Oklahoma and Texas are reportedly looking to bolt the Big 12 and leap to the SEC. If it happens, how should the Big Ten respond?www.nj.com
ahoelsken
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Maybe-but I still think the Pac 12 is far more vulnerable to losing somebody than the ACC is.
And our nation's previous president is on record that he won the election, so...
ahoelsken
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Jesus ****ing Christ can't he choke on a big mac already so every single ****ing thread in here doesn't go back to him?
I don’t think so, CU was the first team to move if I recall. CU and Utah were solidly in.
All subsequent discussion of OU and Texas were after the CU and Utah jump. Nebraska jumped to the B1G, Missouri and A&M followed to the SEC; gutting the upper to middle 1/3 of the conference. Texas began shopping itself but more as a hubris play to stoke the flame for their brand. That put Baylor into a tizzy and was posturing to politics.
OU was left out to dry and made the mistake of thinking regional partnerships were important. I think OU has recognized that geography and regional partners don’t matter now so they will not hesitate to move if they can.
The Pac12 made the same mistake as OU. The Pac12 stayed true to the small regional conference model and it ruined conference growth potential. If Texas and OU are in play then the Pac12 must seriously inquire and even accommodate. Time for the GK to make a splash for the conference or begin reshaping the conference away from football.
ahoelsken
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CU was. Utah was the plan B if the Pac 16 fell apart.
Medford M.
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Look it up. It's hard to explain. Like Luka Doncic being a professional since he was 15.
I’ve been to Ann Arbor. Boulder isn’t anything like Ann Arbor.
Honestly it’s starting to feel like the B1G and P12 might need to explore restarting that strategic alliance and possibly even pooling their tv rights if they want to stay relevant. Have the PAC add a couple of schools in the Texas footprint and then expand their cross scheduling. In a streaming world appealing content is going to be king since the cable market is shrinking and the cable companies have tamped down hard on the RSNs. Leagues aren’t going to be able to afford to schedule cupcakes, they will need as many appealing matchups as possible to drive streaming viewership.
Please no bailer. Houston looks more attractve than tech or tcu.
2001Grad
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Under a pod scenario you play those teams in your pod every year and rotate through all the others on a regular, but not yearly basis.
Despite Michigan's issues lately the UM/OSU game is always one of the top 1-3 watched regular season games of the year. I mean it's nickname is "The Game". The B1G wants that game played every year, no doubt.
playing each year is also accomplished by putting them in different pods and making them playing partners. I don't see pods and playing partners as mutually exclusive concepts. what am I missing here?
If the P12 was to be included in the BTN, that would be a massive upgrade from what we have with the P12N. ESPN would simply pool together the ACCN and SECN in that regard.
Fox Sports needs to really get going on their version of ESPN+.
I am most interested in how FOX responds to all of this. Do they throw a bunch of money at the situation to keep espn from having the south and texas in their programming? Do they try to keep OU and Texas in the big 10/Pac-12 with escalators that those two conferences will make the same amount as the SEC every year or so they go cheap and try to keep what they have currently?
I really think CU makes sense for the B1G - long-time rival with Nebraska and we border a current B1G state which would keep things somewhat geographical. I don't know who the 16th school could be but they will figure that out. I hate to say it but KU would make alot of sense geographically plus they are an AAU school, but I still say that overall they aren't a good addition for a P5 conference with their lack of success and apathy towards football. But if the B1G wants to throw geography out the window then they would be crazy to not go after USC.
Lotta Iowa going on.
Meh, they can have discussions. Pretty sure BYU had discussions.
The things that kept BYU out were
1. Won't play on Sunday
2. Academic freedom
#2 covers a lot and gets into the weeds pretty quickly, but a quick bottom line short cut is "would the school give tenure to (or even hire and/or admit as a student) an openly homosexual atheist whose academic pursuit was examining the church through the lens of critical race theory?"
BYU and **** bailer both fail that test pretty miserably. I don't know enough about TCU to know where they'd come down on that one.
**** bailer also fails the "treat rape and murder by your athletes and coaches like the serious crimes they are" test, so I'm pretty sure their only P4 hope is the B1G.
I understand the system very well and can tell you everything you need. The concept of organised athletic competitions between educational institutions in football and basketball is completely alien here. The clubs develop the players themselves.
Yeah, really want to avoid baylor. I absolutely love the TCU/SMU combo as sort of a **** you to the SEC though. I think you can make some serious headway in Dallas against OU over time and with the way that metro area is growing it would be a good approach. After that it gets tricky, TTU is a solid athletic department but so far away from the metro area and doesn’t seem to have a large presence over the other schools in Texas. **** baylor. Houston would be a really solid add in football and basketball but they seem to have trouble attracting fans. Oklahoma state seems like it will be a program that will struggle over time but they are a decent AD currently.
unfortunately if you are talking about recruiting and money it would probably be TCU, SMU, Baylor and houston.
unfortunately if you are talking about recruiting and money it would probably be TCU, SMU, Baylor and houston.
Surprising. Feldman was saying texas wanted to enter free agency and see what was the best for them, including going independent.
Whereas CU .... ?
Sweet, Let’s go! BIG! They would love to have us, their current members schools would come to CU in November and be like:And there's no exit fee to leave the Pac 12. Just the GoR.
ACC's New Exit Fee: Punitive Or Par For The Course?
The new fee is a huge increase for the ACC, up roughly 250% from a year ago. But is the conference's exit fee really the worst deal in college athletics? Maybe, but a close look at exit fees from around the country shows that there is a lot more to leaving a conference than just paying the bill.www.forbes.com
