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Formerly_Medford said:
Which year did he mail it in?

You talking the ‘24 class? Not getting better players than Baskin and Malone when we clearly needed starting, P4 level point guard?

That I’ll agree with, but as far as HS recruiting, Tad continues to bring in better players every year than any previous CU coach.
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That last statement isn't even close to correct. Patton was a better recruiter and brought in better players than Tad. Sh!t, Apke and Harrington brought in about the same level of HS recruits. Tad brings in good players and does a great job elevating them.
 
hokiehead said:
I thought officiating crews were regional and not conference based.


This is easily verified to be false. "Nearly sold out with tickets at a higher price", would be accurate.
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Oops! I was thinking football! 🤦
 
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DBT said:
Citation?
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The wiki page is the easiest for attendance and it cites sources.

I'm not sure there's a source for trends of ticket prices, but my experience and posts on AllBuffs back it up, notably around the dynamic pricing.
 
hokiehead said:
The wiki page is the easiest for attendance and it cites sources.

I'm not sure there's a source for trends of ticket prices, but my experience and posts on AllBuffs back it up, notably around the dynamic pricing.
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I don’t doubt you. When I posted that I’d forgotten which forum and thread I was in. I was thinking football. 😆
 
DBT said:
I don’t doubt you. When I posted that I’d forgotten which forum and thread I was in. I was thinking football. 😆
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The bit about ticket sales was football - I was responding to a sentence in a post explicitly about football.
 
hokiehead said:
The bit about ticket sales was football - I was responding to a sentence in a post explicitly about football.
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We’ve sold out every game in ‘23 & ‘24 except the NDSU game for which we fell 750 short.

For all practical purposes, we sold out every game.
 
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Da Lama said:
That last statement isn't even close to correct. Patton was a better recruiter and brought in better players than Tad. Sh!t, Apke and Harrington brought in about the same level of HS recruits. Tad brings in good players and does a great job elevating them.
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I sure as **** don’t remember Payton bringing in top 50 classes every year

I’m honestly baffled by your statement, as it’s completely contradictory with facts.

You can go look at our all time commits. It’s basically all Tad guys.

Tad has brought in almost every top 150 player this program has ever had
 
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DBT said:
I’m a very petty person. I hope the ewes lose by 25.
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Speaking of petty, I'm enjoying watching John Denver complain about not getting into the dance (none of them want to talk about that loss to CU last week.....I wonder why?). On top of that, we have the same group of whiners from the Heisman bitching again!

Schadenfreude!
 
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ahoelsken said:
Speaking of petty, I'm enjoying watching John Denver complain about not getting into the dance (none of them want to talk about that loss to CU last week.....I wonder why?). On top of that, we have the same group of whiners from the Heisman bitching again!

Schadenfreude!
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The guy was unhinged! 😆
 
Formerly_Medford said:
I sure as **** don’t remember Payton bringing in top 50 classes every year

I’m honestly baffled by your statement, as it’s completely contradictory with facts.

You can go look at our all time commits. It’s basically all Tad guys.

Tad has brought in almost every top 150 player this program has ever had
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Billups (Patton was his primary recruiter) and Harrison (top 10, we beat out Duke and Carolina). Tad has had more depth to his classes. So I don't find Lama's statement baffling.
 
Bama St. beats St. Francis in the early 1st four game.

The Heels are all over the Aztecs so far in the 2nd game.
 
Hank said:
Billups (Patton was his primary recruiter) and Harrison (top 10, we beat out Duke and Carolina). Tad has had more depth to his classes. So I don't find Lama's statement baffling.
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Martice Moore, Will Smith, Jamahl Mosely, Jaquay Walls, Jose Winston, Stephane Pelle, Blair Wilson, Roby, Marcus Hall, Chris Copeland.

Tad's recruiting has been better, but Patton got his. Overall Tad is a better coach to state the obvious.
 
Hank said:
Billups (Patton was his primary recruiter) and Harrison (top 10, we beat out Duke and Carolina). Tad has had more depth to his classes. So I don't find Lama's statement baffling.
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So two total recruits?

I’ll ask again…how many top 100 or top 150 guys came here pre Tad
 
Scotch said:
Martice Moore, Will Smith, Jamahl Mosely, Jaquay Walls, Jose Winston, Stephane Pelle, Blair Wilson, Roby, Marcus Hall, Chris Copeland.

Tad's recruiting has been better, but Patton got his. Overall Tad is a better coach to state the obvious.
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What were those guys rated coming out of HS?

I genuinely am not sure on most of them.
 
Goose said:
Yeah, Patton could recruit top notch guys. Just couldn’t do depth or develop. But he got some pretty big fish.
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He was also in Quentin Richarson's top 2 or 3. Larry Zimmer lamented on-air how he thought that was a done deal, and was a bit surprised when he committed to DePaul.
 
Formerly_Medford said:
What were those guys rated coming out of HS?

I genuinely am not sure on most of them.
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Honestly I'm not sure.

Martice Moore was ACC Freshman of the year at G-Tech before transferring to Boulder.

Smith, Mosely, Winston, and Pelle were big signings, but don't remember where they were ranked.

Walls was a juco transfer. I'd put him up there with Spencer, Kin, amd KJ. His senior year he put the team on his back and beat a Marcus Fizer/Jamal Tinsley led Iowa St. team in Boulder in OT. He scored 15 points in that OT. The same Cyclones team that punked the Jayhawks @ the Phog. Probably TMI here but Walls is one of my all time fav Buffs.

Roby, Hall, and Copeland were under the radar guys.

Wilson played at Westy and was a Colorado guy Tad would have signed. I'd compare him to LOB, only Wilson was a better 3-ball shooter.

Anyway, a lot of good players there.
 
Scotch said:
Bama St. beats St. Francis in the early 1st four game.

The Heels are all over the Aztecs so far in the 2nd game.
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Another example of the MWC/new Pac 12 maybe getting too many bids? CSU and New Mexico both have winnable games IMO, and that league needs them to. San Diego State looked like ass.

Early first four game was a ton of fun. Alabama State took it on a lay up off a baseball pass with about a second left.
 
Goose said:
Yeah, Patton could recruit top notch guys. Just couldn’t do depth or develop. But he got some pretty big fish.
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Yeah, that's what I meant. And was just really defending Lama's comment as not dumb. If we're talking about top 20 recruits: Patton 2, Tad 1. But Tad has been able to fill classes with those 75-150 players, which for CU is good.
 
Formerly_Medford said:
What were those guys rated coming out of HS?

I genuinely am not sure on most of them.
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I know Stephane was a Parade AA in HS. A lot of those guys were before the services really started slapping star ratings or rankings together.

I recall Roby was a 4-star, but I can't find a record of it, so my memory may be failing me. He was at least the MA POTY coming out of HS.
 
Formerly_Medford said:
What were those guys rated coming out of HS?

I genuinely am not sure on most of them.
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Part of the problem is that recruiting rankings really didn't become what it is until the early 2000s. You basically had a magazine or two that dedicated a page with a list of maybe the Top 50 HS players for the upcoming year ala Phil Steele. I do know that guys like Billups, Pelle, Morandais, Roby, Harrison, Winston, Copeland, Walls, etc. were on those lists. Who knows what they'd be ranked now? I imagine anywhere in the 100-200 range with Billups and Harrison in the top 25.
 
Da Lama said:
Part of the problem is that recruiting rankings really didn't become what it is until the early 2000s. You basically had a magazine or two that dedicated a page with a list of maybe the Top 50 HS players for the upcoming year ala Phil Steele. I do know that guys like Billups, Pelle, Morandais, Roby, Harrison, Winston, Copeland, Walls, etc. were on those lists. Who knows what they'd be ranked now? I imagine anywhere in the 100-200 range with Billups and Harrison in the top 25.
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Michel is an outlier here. As an international recruit, I would assume he was an under-the radar-guy, not on any major lists. Copeland, as well, may have been a strong regional recruit (VA), but I don't think he was a national-level, top-150 guy.

Billups, Harrison, Pelle are all known top-tier recruits. I would envision Roby as like a top-75 in the modern landscape? Winston is also known as a top-50. I cannot speak to others.

What I get when reading through the offer and considering lists of the guys from the early-rivals era, CU is often the lone power conference program approaching a lot of these guys. Roby is the exception.

One thing I really appreciated with RP was his ability to find impactful players in odd areas. Maybe not guys who were highly rated, but guys who fit a role. We signed kids from 23 different states and 5 foreign countries during his tenure.

When I spoke with Neill Woelk for my 60-59 article a few years back, he emphasized that, saying: "“He beat the bushes and found good players. [...] I think he was a very good talent evaluator. And, if he identified a need, i.e, a Jose Winston as a PG or a David Harrison as a big man, he went after them. He was a very dogged recruiter and would work his tail off to get kids. He identified talent, looked for needs. But he didn’t have a specific place that he went after kids; I mean he wasn’t hot after kids in Texas or California or anything like that. I think he just identified kids that he thought would fit the program and then went after them."
 
Random question: How in the f*** did San Jose State make the NIT? 15-19 record in the sh!thouse MWC and 2 of those wins were against Life Pacific and Lincoln (CA) University.
 
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