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Pac-12

Lorenzo Romer gets a lot of credit for turning UW into a solid bball program, but apparently everybody doesn't have such a high opinion of him, this article is very critical of him and has some decent points. Be forewarned it is long.
 
Hoopspeak.com weighs in on the p12, as i stated in another thread i am sick of apologizing for the p12 having a down year, i don't care. #1 is still #1 even if they don't think CU will be there at the end of the year.
 
jgisland said:
Lorenzo Romer gets a lot of credit for turning UW into a solid bball program, but apparently everybody doesn't have such a high opinion of him, this article is very critical of him and has some decent points. Be forewarned it is long.
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I'll look at the whole article when I have time. Thanks for the link jgisland!

Romar should stay at UW for as long as he wants in my book (I think he's signed through 2015 or something right now). I hope he retires here. UW (like CU) traditionally was a football school. Over the past decade with Romar at the helm we've developed into a solid BBall program. In basketball, my personal opinion is that it takes 10-20 years before you're considered very good. Just look at Arizona under Olsen. It took them a long time to get to their championship... There is nobody in the conference who I would prefer coaching my team (although at Boyle's rate he could be just as good if not better in a few years).

Anyway, with 9 years under Romar as HC, UW has:
--Been to the Dance 6/9 years (2 of every 3 years)
--Made the Sweet 16 3/9 years (1 of every 3 years)
--Won the Pac 10 outright (1st time since 1950's)
--Won the Pac tournament (last two years running and 3 times overall or 1/3 years under his tutelage along with runner up once)
--UW has been to 3 consecutive Dances in March now, if they go this year it will be the first ever time for a senior to go every year while playing
--Placed many, many players into the NBA

UW is not UCLA, Duke, Kentucky or Kansas.... and they never will be. They very well could win a title someday, but to take a school that rarely made it to the dance and to produce what he's done in the past decade is simply phenomenal.

Plus Romar is as upstanding of a coach character-wise as you will find in all of college athletics.

UW fans who think he should leave are completely and utterly stupid. I'll take his results any day. This year's squad was predicted by many to be the worst in years due to its youth and so far they are exactly what people thought, a top half of the league team with talent that has yet to mature or gel as a team. Romar's teams always start slow, so you have to take the good with the bad.

Many schools want coaches that win titles. UW has been a football school, and to turn the basketball program around like Romar has, I will take being a force year in and year out even if we never win the championship. It sure beats where we were...
 
DesertDawg526 said:
I'll look at the whole article when I have time. Thanks for the link jgisland!

Romar should stay at UW for as long as he wants in my book (I think he's signed through 2015 or something right now). I hope he retires here. UW (like CU) traditionally was a football school. Over the past decade with Romar at the helm we've developed into a solid BBall program. In basketball, my personal opinion is that it takes 10-20 years before you're considered very good. Just look at Arizona under Olsen. It took them a long time to get to their championship... There is nobody in the conference who I would prefer coaching my team (although at Boyle's rate he could be just as good if not better in a few years).

Anyway, with 9 years under Romar as HC, UW has:
--Been to the Dance 6/9 years (2 of every 3 years)
--Made the Sweet 16 3/9 years (1 of every 3 years)
--Won the Pac 10 outright (1st time since 1950's)
--Won the Pac tournament (last two years running and 3 times overall or 1/3 years under his tutelage along with runner up once)
--UW has been to 3 consecutive Dances in March now, if they go this year it will be the first ever time for a senior to go every year while playing
--Placed many, many players into the NBA

UW is not UCLA, Duke, Kentucky or Kansas.... and they never will be. They very well could win a title someday, but to take a school that rarely made it to the dance and to produce what he's done in the past decade is simply phenomenal.

Plus Romar is as upstanding of a coach character-wise as you will find in all of college athletics.

UW fans who think he should leave are completely and utterly stupid. I'll take his results any day. This year's squad was predicted by many to be the worst in years due to its youth and so far they are exactly what people thought, a top half of the league team with talent that has yet to mature or gel as a team. Romar's teams always start slow, so you have to take the good with the bad.

Many schools want coaches that win titles. UW has been a football school, and to turn the basketball program around like Romar has, I will take being a force year in and year out even if we never win the championship. It sure beats where we were...
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Do you mind if I save this so I can use it in 5 years with "Boyle" inserted for "Romar" and "CU" inserted for "UW" once all the boobirds who didn't give a **** about basketball 2 years ago start bitching about the Buffs having a mediocre season? :smile2:

Fight the good fight. Romar's a hell of a coach and a great representative for UDub.
 
Buffnik said:
Do you mind if I save this so I can use it in 5 years with "Boyle" inserted for "Romar" and "CU" inserted for "UW" once all the boobirds who didn't give a **** about basketball 2 years ago start bitching about the Buffs having a mediocre season? :smile2:

Fight the good fight. Romar's a hell of a coach and a great representative for UDub.
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That article doesn't describe Boyle at all either.
 
Buffnik said:
Do you mind if I save this so I can use it in 5 years with "Boyle" inserted for "Romar" and "CU" inserted for "UW" once all the boobirds who didn't give a **** about basketball 2 years ago start bitching about the Buffs having a mediocre season? :smile2:

Fight the good fight. Romar's a hell of a coach and a great representative for UDub.
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Sure thing:thumbsup:

Will CU fans complain if Boyle regularly has CU in the Top 2-3 in conference yearly and goes dancing more often than not with the expectation of going every year? Even if he doesn't win a championship?

I read the article now, and it's good to see Romar wrapped up through 2020.

I don't buy the article saying Romar is a horrible coach. The author has an unreal expectation and he uses this year's team (7 freshman) to demonstrate why Romar can't finish, despite losing how many starters from last year's veteran team? This year's team is a horrible example to say that Romar sux. He doesn't. Sure, he may never win the big one... given time he just might. Is Romar a Top 5 or Top 10 coach? Probably not. Not many are, and the ones who are will not be leaving their schools anytime soon. A Top 20 coach? Easily. I find it hard to complain about that, instead I consider us very fortunate to have him and have such high expectations.

It reminds me of when the Sonics fired George Karl because he was only consistently winning 60+ games a year and couldn't quite win the title. Right after he left they averaged an extra 15-20+ losses per year and never got back to being even a mediocre team...:shot:
 
CanadianDuck said:
HUGE win for Oregon on the road and a nice sweep of the Arizona schools...... GO DUCKS!
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Nice win, but don't get too excited -- it's going to be like this all year. Losses and more losses for everyone in the league. Total cluster**** that ultimately results in the Pac-12 getting no respect and 1 or 2 bids to the dance.
 
CVilleBuff said:
Nice win, but don't get too excited -- it's going to be like this all year. Losses and more losses for everyone in the league. Total cluster**** that ultimately results in the Pac-12 getting no respect and 1 or 2 bids to the dance.
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Well the Ducks are 3-1 on the road in Pac-12 play and I haven't had a reason to be excited about Ducks basketball in a while. Sure I know the Pac-12 season will be crazy with up and downs, but I might as well celebrate the up ;)
 
ASU will be coming into Boulder with a 2-3 mark in the Pac. They defeated the Beavs by 10 in Tempe yesterday.

In today's action, UW defeated Wazzu, 75-65. As much as UW has their fans complaining, they are 4-1 and tied atop the Pac.

UCLA beat USC 66-47 to even up with CU at 3-2 in the Pac.
 
Interesting note from Rush The Court:

Tying up a few loose ends, we talked about Richard Solomon’s academic ineligibility and Josh Watkins’ dismissal from Utah yesterday, but thought we’d also pass along some information from the local media on both situations. For Solomon, there isn’t a whole lot to report; he just didn’t make grades, but head coach Mike Montgomery hopes he can patch up those problems and return next season. For Watkins, it’s another story. All indications are that he is a good kid, but head coach Larry Krystkowiak just couldn’t ignore the “accountability issues” with Watkins any longer. He reportedly missed practice again on Monday, and after Krystkowiak had laid down a “zero tolerance” policy following a blowout loss to Colorado on New Year’s Eve, Watkins had to go. Krystkowiak said he hopes Watkins continues at Utah and receives his degree, and I’m sure he does, not just for Watkins’ sake, but for the sake of Utah’s graduation rates that will be in the garbage following all of the recent transfers out of the program.
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I hadn't even thought about the APR mess that Utah is going to have to deal with in the next few years.
 
jgisland said:
Rush the Court asked “If you were starting a program from scratch, which current Pac-12 coach would you target to kick start your program?”

Apparently Sean Miller and Dana Altman were the only one's worthy to even be mentioned. A little surprised Tad didn't get mentioned, Altman may be doing some nice things but it doesn't help when your star recruit doesn't make it past 10 days in your program.
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Oregon's definitely the Pac-12 flavor of the week right now after their win at Zona. I haven't been impressed by them, but now they've got 3 straight home games (SC, UCLA, OSU) and then @ Utah, so they have a chance to vault themselves into 1st over the next two weeks before things get considerably tougher.
 
Oregon with a very sloppy win vs USC, but luckily for the Ducks they have 3 guys who shoot about 90% from the FT line.

Cal beats UW - Must be some nice redemption for their fan base after this last week.
Nice win Colorado!
Arizona destroys Utah and has another player ejected due to throwing a punch.
 
Cal goes to Seattle and gets a 69-66 win. Cal now 16-4 (6-1) and looking like the team to beat in the Pac. Huskies fall to 11-7 (4-2).

Arizona takes care of business in Salt Lake City against a Utah squad that doesn't even have Watkins anymore. Arizona moves to 13-6 (4-2), Utah falls to 4-14 (1-5). Obviously our game against 'Zona on Saturday is going to be huge in terms of Pac pecking order.

Oregon barely beats USC in Eugene, 65-62. Was hoping that USC could do us a favor and knock Oregon back, but that was too much to ask. Ducks move to 14-5 (5-2), USC falls to 5-14 (0-6). Ouch. However, this will stop the Oregon hype that was starting to pop up. They aren't very good.

Stanford @ Wazzu still ongoing, UCLA @ Oregon State about to get underway.
 
Cal wins 69-66 at uDub, Zona wins in SLC 77-51, Oragami beats u$c 65-62 in Eugene, 'furd up 27-23 at wazzoo.

edit: whoa, I was a bit late with that. ooooops.
 
CVilleBuff said:
Cal goes to Seattle and gets a 69-66 win. Cal now 16-4 (6-1) and looking like the team to beat in the Pac. Huskies fall to 11-7 (4-2).

Arizona takes care of business in Salt Lake City against a Utah squad that doesn't even have Watkins anymore. Arizona moves to 13-6 (4-2), Utah falls to 4-14 (1-5). Obviously our game against 'Zona on Saturday is going to be huge in terms of Pac pecking order.

Oregon barely beats USC in Eugene, 65-62. Was hoping that USC could do us a favor and knock Oregon back, but that was too much to ask. Ducks move to 14-5 (5-2), USC falls to 5-14 (0-6). Ouch. However, this will stop the Oregon hype that was starting to pop up. They aren't very good.

Stanford @ Wazzu still ongoing, UCLA @ Oregon State about to get underway.
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Oregon is a very odd team this year. If all their players show up which has happened twice they are a very good team, but it seems as though only 2 players show up each week and it keeps changing. Oregon played an awful game while USC had one of their better games and Oregon still managed to win. I know Oregon is not elite, but they are a good team.
 
CanadianDuck said:
Oregon is a very odd team this year. If all their players show up which has happened twice they are a very good team, but it seems as though only 2 players show up each week and it keeps changing. Oregon played an awful game while USC had one of their better games and Oregon still managed to win. I know Oregon is not elite, but they are a good team.
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Oregon will finish in the top half of the Pac, but I've heard some "analysts" hyping Oregon over the past week as perhaps the team that will win the Pac regular season. That's not going to happen. Beating USC by 3 in Eugene is not a good sign. Trojans are winless in the Pac...
 
CVilleBuff said:
Solomon Hill was ejected in tonight's win at Utah after dishing out a hard elbow to the head of a Ute. Averages 12pts 8reb a game
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Wow, just wow. I mean, how the hell do you get mad at a Yoot ? I just don't get it.


In other news, wazzoo up by 7 over 'furd with about 5 to play.
 
RedDirtBuff said:
Wow, just wow. I mean, how the hell do you get mad at a Yoot ? I just don't get it.


In other news, wazzoo up by 7 over 'furd with about 5 to play.
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This is huge. Stanford was up by as much as 13 in this one, and were leading 50-39 in the second half before Wazzu went on a furious run. Now 71-63 Cougs with 2 mins remaining. Cross your fingers that Wazzu holds on, this would be great news for the Buffs
 
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