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now that is some funny ****.
dply
Doble hoja
The top posters on RM are equal to the bottom posters on AB. I can see why I don't regularly see Csquared posting over there. I bet he has posted here 3 times as much. I'm starting to think we should make a website for reasonable Ram fans.
I don't see any reason to hate the school to the north until I go to Invesco or browse rm.
I don't see any reason to hate the school to the north until I go to Invesco or browse rm.
:rofl:
why would you make a website for only four people?
They have one for all of the rest of the Rams fans who care enough to post, its called ramnation. And they have five people on a good day.:lol:
Their other DE starter James has just transferred, along with a safety leaving for BYU, and the dismissals of Orakpo and Capi.
http://www.reporterherald.com/sports/csu/ci_20693986/james-leaving-colorado-state
We better run through their defense like Turbolax through Jeff Daniels intestinal tract.
http://www.reporterherald.com/sports/csu/ci_20693986/james-leaving-colorado-state
We better run through their defense like Turbolax through Jeff Daniels intestinal tract.
dply
Doble hoja
I had to look at RM this morning. After ignoring the only guy posting on the first page I got to the second and how they really think the Pac-12 will take them. They we sure that they had a deal with the Big 12 that if they had a stadium they would get an invite. But now they are sure they are going to the Big 12. :wtf:
I love my state. I've lived in several different states in my life but I always come back home. I love it here and I root for all things Colorado. But damn they are stupid on that site. It really makes me want to see them fail and I hate that.
I love my state. I've lived in several different states in my life but I always come back home. I love it here and I root for all things Colorado. But damn they are stupid on that site. It really makes me want to see them fail and I hate that.
I was reading that this morning also. I like going to Ramnation for my daily delusion. CU's crappy play for the past 6 years as knocked most of that out of the CU fanbase - but it is still going strong for the Rams!
http://www.ramnation.com/message_board/athletics/2012/May/23/1364596.php
http://www.ramnation.com/message_board/athletics/2012/May/23/1364596.php
That eyesore of a thread again makes the boneheaded assumption that the Pac 12 HAS to expand to 16. It doesn't (sacky approved). As mentioned in the expansion thread, the Pac 12 has a stranglehold in the West, and if anything should not expand because it consolidates more power to each Pac 12 school instead of the watered down 16 team conference with more mouths to feed. The SEC is learning right now that while the new schools add more money to the overall TV contract, they don't really add enough to make a major per team TV revenue increase. I think we can sit back and watch how the SEC/ACC 14 team conferences work...or fail. The Pac 12 will only expand when it makes sense.
Agreed - and expansion is only going to occur going east..... The Pac isn't going to cannibalize existing TV markets just for the sake of adding new schools.
Excellent analysis. The P12 has every major school in the Mountain and Pacific time zones locked down. The west is a differnt beast than the east where there are many, many more schools. Once you hit Mtn. /Pac. time zones, besides UU, CU, ASU, UA, SC, Cal, Stan.,UW, WSU, UO, Ore. St. and fUCLA, who else draws? Maybe BYU, maybe Boise, maybe AF, but the P12 already has those markets locked up with a neighboring school (see Colorado and Utah) or doesn't want the market anyway (see Boise).
DeNiro
My Dixie Wrecked
In addition they will need to be a good fit on the academic side of things with the Pac.
dply
Doble hoja
That issue is kind of interesting. I mean Arizona State is in the Pac. :lol:
You are right, eastward expansion is the only thing that will drive the dollars to make it happen. Unfortunately, that won't happen unless Texas is involved, or maybe ND. I don't see the UT/P12 courtship heating up again anytime soon, and if ND goes into a conference, it will most likely be the B10/11/12. Otherwise the B12-2-1-1+1, or whatever the hell they are now, and the B10/11/12 will be natural barriers to that expanson. My guess is the P12 will be in it's current form for the next 10 years or so...at least.
Which is probably good for CSU. They need time to build their stadium, and theoretically start winning the MWC before they even have a prayer of hitting a new conference. If the conference alignment hurtled towards super-conferences in the next 3 years, then they are SOL
My guess is that the superconference model of 16 teams never gets off the ground. The SEC is already seeing the effect of getting too big. Their TV money is huge, but split so many ways it isn't that lucrative.
The eastern conferences (ACC, SEC, Big 10/11/12, Big lEast) have a better shot at pulling off a 14/16 team conference because of the density of population and closer travel. The Mt. and Pac. time zones are unique in that the population density is way less and ther are fewer marquee schools. To get more than 12 quality schools, you almost have to go across the central time zone, I am not sure that will work.
There will be an evolution to 4, maybe five power conferences, and everyone else will be left at the station. I really doubt anyone in the Mtn. or Pac. time zones has a chance of getting into the P12. Only BYU, AFA and maybe Boise have enough juice to be worth a look to the B12.
In the end I think there will be the P12, the B12, the B10/11/12, the SEC and the ACC. The SEC and ACC may actually get to 16 teams, but my guess is the rest stay at no more than 12...unless ND deceides to enter the B10/11/12 and then all hell breaks loose again.....
DeNiro
My Dixie Wrecked
We all have our black sheep.
Their arguments change daily, so it is really hard to keep up with it all. One poster was trying to make the analogy of Arizona/ASU to CU/CSU. Unfortunately for CSU, they are not located in one of the largest metro areas in the United States and they do not have one of the highest enrollments in the country. They would be a slam dunk with those attributes.
The pot shots at CU are great too. Go ahead and rip on a school that had a far more compelling case. It will definitely help their argument.
The pot shots at CU are great too. Go ahead and rip on a school that had a far more compelling case. It will definitely help their argument.
They've got nothing else. Deep down inside they know their best days are behind them...and those days only yielded the occasional upset, a Thursday night TV appearance and the elusive #25 ranking for one week in a row. The 40 or so hardcore goat fans really want to be big time...but I think most of them know they won't...so they lash out.
Superconferences aren't happening without the Big 10 and the PAC. As we have already discussed there aren't any schools not in the PAC that add value to the conference at anything approaching their cost. At the same time the Big 10 has not shown any great interest in dividing their pie up either. Unless they can get a Notre Dame and somebody else who will generate as much revenue as they cost they aren't expanding either.
Without the PAC and the Big 10 on board the superconference idea is dead as it stands.
In any case, despite their dreams and illusions, CSU is not of interest to any of the major conferences. A school that doesn't generate TV ratings and only draws 20k a home game isn't what they are looking for.
Basically at RN Tini and BB2 are the leaders.
JJBuff
Club Member
Thanks for your input. That kind of in-depth analysis is what we've really been missing around here.
Not a lot of great options for expansion:
San Diego State and Fresno State have academic concerns and territory overlap
Hawaii has travel distance and academic concerns
CSU has territory overlap, small footprint, poor attendance
BYU has territory overlap and is religion based school
Air Force does not want to be in a BCS conference. This has been stated by their AD, who said he doesn't have the horses to compete week in, week out. His kids will get killed.
Boise State has small market and academic concerns
New Mexico and Nevada might be the best options in the mtn/pacific time zones, in the sense that they are in new markets (somewhat). Overall, I don't see how they add enough to slice the revenue pie up more.
Looking east, Notre Dame would add a lot, but they are a Catholic school and I can't see why they would choose the PAC over the Big 10 anyway.
SMU could also be a possibility to open up Texas, but do they have a big enough following? Also, they are religion based school.
Given all of the above, I can't see the PAC expanding any time soon.
San Diego State and Fresno State have academic concerns and territory overlap
Hawaii has travel distance and academic concerns
CSU has territory overlap, small footprint, poor attendance
BYU has territory overlap and is religion based school
Air Force does not want to be in a BCS conference. This has been stated by their AD, who said he doesn't have the horses to compete week in, week out. His kids will get killed.
Boise State has small market and academic concerns
New Mexico and Nevada might be the best options in the mtn/pacific time zones, in the sense that they are in new markets (somewhat). Overall, I don't see how they add enough to slice the revenue pie up more.
Looking east, Notre Dame would add a lot, but they are a Catholic school and I can't see why they would choose the PAC over the Big 10 anyway.
SMU could also be a possibility to open up Texas, but do they have a big enough following? Also, they are religion based school.
Given all of the above, I can't see the PAC expanding any time soon.
bigbang2
blindslighted
Not much indepth analysis can be made in May. BTW it is a prediction thread. And it is not like most people will understand the analysis on this forum.
Yep. Up in Fort Collins to be exact.