**** you. Where the **** did I say or imply this is my "biggest concern" you asshole? Sorry, but your post really pissed me off.
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Sandusky update (more evidence against Joe P)
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L Buff
Commissar of the Albuffs Collective Left
JoPa feathered his nest just before the **** hit the fan. :rolling_eyes:
This guy's positive rep is shot forever.
This guy's positive rep is shot forever.
So, how'd that retirement thing work out?
Anyone remember his road rage incident a few years back?
I'm not focused on it. Yeah, I've made one similar post before. But no one seems to even want to consider it. My point is that even the victims will be dragged through the mud by shrewd defense attornys because there will be scammers out there. This process is going to be very difficult for the victims because of it.
OUBuff
American
ummm. Darth. I'm with DBT on this one. BB's focus on accusing DBT of not having enough moral outrage because of a couple of posts seems weird... and unfair. But what do I know. I am just third party that was going to leave well enough alone until you decided to weigh in.
eh. now I'm being misunderstood. :lol:
Weird in what way exactly?
YOU are being misunderstood? How do you think I feel?
I do not mean to emphasize it over the more important parts of the case. I just think its an interesting topic. What can I say about Sandusky, Paterno and PSU that hasn't already been said? After Sandusky is sentenced the civil suits will begin as well as, possibly, more criminal charges.
I think outside the box.
dply
Doble hoja
I broke the dam!
I Broke the dam!
This article by AP writer Tim Dahlberg was in my local Sunday paper. It's titled [h=1]NCAA must gut Penn State's football program with massive penalties[/h]
http://bit.ly/Mwcs0q
The writer is correct. There is no way for Paterno's family to spin this to make JoePa look good. I also don't think this compares to CU's rape scandal. This compares to nothing that we know of in college football.
http://bit.ly/Mwcs0q
The writer is correct. There is no way for Paterno's family to spin this to make JoePa look good. I also don't think this compares to CU's rape scandal. This compares to nothing that we know of in college football.
L Buff
Commissar of the Albuffs Collective Left
Can't say I disagree with anything in the column. The NCAA will never impose a penalty that harsh against a school that is a "name" school and a huge revenue producer. They didn't come close when Baylor covered up murder and drug dealing, they show no signs of growing a spine or a moral compass now.
fify :thumbsup:
I'm surprised at the number of talking heads who have opined that the Penn(al) State football program should be shut down. They're giving away ice in the wintertime, though, since money talks and says there's much more money to be made playing football at PSU than not.
Shutting down the football program would salve some of society's moral outrage, but would it really change anything? The PSU administration knew just how ****ed they would be if Sandusky's deeds were exposed. That's why they covered it up. This was a moral failure on the part of those involved, not a moral hazard.
Shutting down the football program would salve some of society's moral outrage, but would it really change anything? The PSU administration knew just how ****ed they would be if Sandusky's deeds were exposed. That's why they covered it up. This was a moral failure on the part of those involved, not a moral hazard.
L Buff
Commissar of the Albuffs Collective Left
I have to disagree. If the PSU administration, especially JoPa, had dealt with JS as they should have after the first reported incident in 1998, they would have avoided this whole thing. Once it became public, other, previous victims may have come forward, but it would never have blown up and been such a black mark on what was a highly respected program.
The fact they allowed JS to use both the Second Mile and the football program and facilties so that he could pick out highly vulnerable kids to abuse is what is so insidious about the whole thing. The administration (again especially JoPa) is directly responsible for every kid that was violated after 1998.
L is right on this one.
Well said.
Sure, but why didn't they deal with Sandusky when they heard about the first incident? Because they were afraid of the fallout, i.e. they expected a media swarm and that the PSU football program would be tarnished. I can't see any other reason for the cover up. I disagree that they would have avoided the whole thing had they done the right thing in 1998. There would've been some negative attention; certainly nothing like they're getting now. But almost all cover ups spiral out of control eventually.
Of course those who knew and did nothing are morally responsible for Sandusky's acts, but they put themselves in that situation because they chose their own reputations and the reputation of a football program over doing the obviously right thing. I was pointing out that this sort of choice is not particularly unusual and people will continue to make such choices whether PSU football is shut down or not.
"The NCAA is so mad at Kentucky, it's going to give Cleveland State two more years' probation." Jerry Tarkanian
The actual way this will work will be something along the lines of:
"The NCAA is so mad at Penn State, it's going to give Florida International the death penalty for the death of a member of the marching band."