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Shedeur Sanders - 2023-25 Tracking History Thread - Drafted by the Cleveland Browns (NFL)

I think Shedeur can be as good as he wants to be. I haven't watched many Browns' games, hopefully they have a solid oline where he isn't running for his life all the damn time. That and run the damn ball. In the NFL, hell football at any level, is a QB's best friend. I hope he gets his shot at some point. I'm not worried about the Gabriel guy. Most importantly, block out the noise because there will be plenty of it.
 
I'm trying to put my finger on what the difference between them as rookies and SS might be.
That, I don't know. All I do know is the ones I mentioned knew damn well they would be great. Shedeur should play with a chip on his shoulder. He doesn't have to say jack shvt publicly. Just use it as fuel.
 
A bit disturbing that SS is getting—by far—the fewest reps, even including Flacco, who doesn’t really need reps at this point pre-summer.
this.

Of course, they may be giving him more defensive reads where he's supposed to check into a run and hand it off than they are the other QBs.

That's actually something I would test him on.
 
A bit disturbing that SS is getting—by far—the fewest reps, even including Flacco, who doesn’t really need reps at this point pre-summer.
you can't tell that from those stats. He may have longer completions for TD's or just being more efficient.
 
The low reps is the biggest takeaway from day one. Clearly Shedeur is starting out buried on the depth chart and the head coach is going to give every chance for Gabriel to win the job as the primary young QB on the roster. It was reported that there was no left side of the OL when Shedeur was taking snaps. That’s how far he’s buried.
 
He has to play well in preseason. If he does the Browns would have basically no choice but to play him
 
He has to play well in preseason. If he does the Browns would have basically no choice but to play him
The Browns are going to have no choice.

They have been desperate (team and fans) for a winning QB for a long time. The fans weren't entirely happy with bringing in Watson with the cloud hanging over his head, the injury just settled it.

The fans will be hanging on the media reports and even if Shedeur gets fewer reps as long as he shows results in his opportunities the fans will demand to see more of him.

Pickett wasn't successful given good situations, Flacco is ancient and is not what the fans see as a future. Ultimately it is going to come down to to the Rookies. If Gabriel had a ceiling that included franchise type starter he would have been picked much higher.

Shedeur just needs to do his job and let the rest take care of itself.
 
The low reps is the biggest takeaway from day one. Clearly Shedeur is starting out buried on the depth chart and the head coach is going to give every chance for Gabriel to win the job as the primary young QB on the roster. It was reported that there was no left side of the OL when Shedeur was taking snaps. That’s how far he’s buried.
Or, and just hear me out, they know what they've got in Shedeur and don't need to see anymore...thats one way to spin it
 
It’s the first day of OTAs, they have a four way QB competition and he was their 5th round pick. They are giving Pickett an opportunity to see if he’s the vet they can keep for Camp. Gabriel was their higher pick and they know what Flacco brings. Shedeur will get his opportunity with the “1s”
The way the draft went would be my exhibit A to counter the assertion in your last sentence.

Almost no 5th round drafted qb gets ameaningful opportunities with the 1s. They generally are lucky to get extended preseason game time with the 2s, and it's pretty much assumed that they're going to be fighting to make the practice squad.

That's pretty much the only thing can count on: enough reps with other developmental players for the coaches to decide if they want to put them on the practice squad. Nothing more than that should ever just be assumed, almost regardless of what else is going on with other QBs on the roster.
 
The way the draft went would be my exhibit A to counter the assertion in your last sentence.

Almost no 5th round drafted qb gets ameaningful opportunities with the 1s. They generally are lucky to get extended preseason game time with the 2s, and it's pretty much assumed that they're going to be fighting to make the practice squad.

That's pretty much the only thing can count on: enough reps with other developmental players for the coaches to decide if they want to put them on the practice squad. Nothing more than that should ever just be assumed, almost regardless of what else is going on with other QBs on the roster.
This is not a normal 5th round QB selection regardless of what any NFL apologists want people to believe.

His talent is first round worthy and the Browns (and everyone else) know it. There is no reason to draft him and bring him and the polarization to the organization if they didn’t intend to at least give him a shot.

We’ll see, but I don’t think all four QBs are on the roster going into TC and Pickett feels like the known commodity that represents a very low floor along with a moderately low ceiling. Flacco is the true veteran who can be in the QB room with the two Rookies who will battle it out in preseason for QB1 (maybe QB2 if they decide Flacco needs to be the week one starter). They will then likely play both Gabriel and Shedeur during the regular season unless one is obviously better in preseason, so they can see if they can build around that guy or go back to the draft next year.
 
This is not a normal 5th round QB selection regardless of what any NFL apologists want people to believe.
That doesn't mean that the NFL apologists aren't going to be able to "justify" him never getting the chance to play with the 1s (or even the 2s).

And if they can, fairly easily within their assumption set, justify that - I think there is a legitimately real chance it does in fact end up happening.

It may not, but I don't think the possibility can be simply dismissed.

I mean, if this was February and someone said that he wouldn't be drafted until the 5th round, you would have dismissed that as ridiculous and "never going to happen.*"

Yet here we are.


*In fairness, had the discussion happened, you may have caveated a freak injury.
 
That doesn't mean that the NFL apologists aren't going to be able to "justify" him never getting the chance to play with the 1s (or even the 2s).

And if they can, fairly easily within their assumption set, justify that - I think there is a legitimately real chance it does in fact end up happening.

It may not, but I don't think the possibility can be simply dismissed.

I mean, if this was February and someone said that he wouldn't be drafted until the 5th round, you would have dismissed that as ridiculous and "never going to happen.*"

Yet here we are.


*In fairness, had the discussion happened, you may have caveated a freak injury.
Klatt expressed a theory that Shedeur slipped because if you didn't bring him in to be your starter he's too much of a distraction to be your backup. Compared it to guys like Tebow and Kaepernick who were clearly better than the other QB2s in the League but didn't have opportunities. Teams don't want the story to be the backup QB with the media asking about him whenever anyone on the team or in the organization is interviewed.

I think there's a lot to that.

The question is going to be whether he is able to overcome the bruised egos of all the Browns front office and coaches who didn't want him, felt forced into the pick, and really don't want to deal with themselves and anything to do with the team being a footnote to a Shedeur story. He's got to make it clear that he's a franchise QB who will be the difference in winning or losing. Otherwise, they'll see him as a problem they need to get rid of.
 
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Klatt expressed a theory that Shedeur slipped because if you didn't bring him in to be your starter he's too much of a distraction to be your backup. Compared it to guys like Tebow and Kaepernick who were clearly better than the other QB2s in the League but didn't have opportunities. Teams don't want the story to be the backup QB with the media asking about him whenever anyone on the team or in the organization is interviewed.

I think there's a lot to that.

The question is going to be whether he is able to overcome the bruised egos of all the Browns front office and coaches who didn't want him, elt forced into the pick, and really don't want to deal with themselves and anything to do with the team being a footnote to a Shedeur story. He's got to make it clear that he's a franchise QB who will be the difference in winning or losing. Otherwise, they'll see him as a problem they need to get rid of.
So far he is saying all the right things
 
I was in a pub having lunch when they drafted tebow. I shouted no at the top of my lungs and an important part of my boyhood fandom of the broncos died right there.
Nooooo GIF
 
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