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The 2020 COVID Coaching Carousel
- Thread starter Duff Man
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I was pretty high on him during our last 2 coaching searches. I'll be interested to see how he does. He's very respected as a QB coach and offensive mind.
Jedd Fisch is an interesting enough hire, but when you take him over Brent Brennan and Antonio Pierce, it gets a little more dicey
I think it’s all because the best G5 guys aren’t leaving their schools (fickell and Napier) and the top P5 coordinator also didn’t go anywhere (sark).
On the other hand, Andy Avalos seems like a shoe in for the Boise State job, which puts Oregon on the hunt for a defensive coordinator. Do they steal from other Pac-12 teams, like their two hires prior to Avalos? Do they take a shot at a lower league HC? If I were them, I would go hard after Jay Hill and Marcus Freeman
I don’t see the upside for him taking the Boise job, assuming he has his sights set on a P5 job at some point. Best case scenario, he maintains what BSU has done under every coach and is viewed as a nothing special. Worst case, he doesn’t do as well his predecessors and his prospects are slim to none.
White_Rabbit
Well-Known Member
that's what I thought about Boise, but then Harsin got the Auburn job so apparently it does lead places
Avalos name has been thrown around for P5 jobs the past two years, so I think a few more years and he will get a HC gig at the P5. Maybe he feels most comfortable at BSU and could probably retire there if he wanted.
Yeah but he was like candidate number 7+ at Auburn, so while it definitely led places for him eventually, it felt like a guy who has been brought up for every opening the past 2-3 years but hadn’t really been seriously considered, until this cluster**** of a search.
Very slim margin for error at BSU if he does want a P5 job. And honestly, what if he doesn’t do as well as Harsin over 2-3 seasons? Just seems like an unnecessary career gamble. Unless it’s his dream job, of course
GuySmiley
Don't Drink the Kool-Aid
I tend to agree with your analysis on Harsin, it was a cluster search and pulling a young guy with almost an exclusive Boise/NW background is a stretch going to the SEC, much less a decent program in the SEC. I look at it in terms of the assistant coaches he can bring. Does he bring 1/2 of his Boise staff? Is he well known enough to attract ac's from the SEC footprint. It comes down to recruiting-- will Auburn via him and his AC's be able to attract enough recruits to be in the top 1/2 of the SEC?
Dan Hawkins was the ultimate dry well, but I also look at the assistant staff that he was able to attract. I suppose Helfrich was decent, in that he got the Oregon job, but he did not do a ton at CU and then matriculated to Oregon under Chip Kelly who really was the HC/OC... I know someone is going to say Auburn will be able to pay their assistants much more, but I think the allure is more than just $$.
Reading the Boise 247 message board, I didn’t realize they have no AD in place either, and there was some discussion that the university president and Harsin weren’t best friends. Personally, I wouldn’t take a job if I didn’t know who my boss was going to be. You almost have to hire an AD first. Throw in some really bad financial elements from the Mountain West Conference and that job isn’t all that great. Better than most G5 positions out west, but If I’m Kellen Moore or Andy Avalos, I’m sticking with my coordinator job. Avalos could probably leverage it to a small raise.
lawdogg
Club Member
Isn’t he betting on himself either way, though? If he stays at Oregon, he’s banking on them having continued success, particularly defensively, which he can parlay to a P5 head coaching gig. If that defense underperforms, or the team underperforms, he potentially loses a lot of his luster. He takes the Boise job, and is banking that they have a machine in place relative to their peers where he can definitely continue the success and either stay there for the long haul (which might be a desirable option) or leverage his success to something better.
Plus, he’s from Missoula and went to Eastern Washington. He’s got a ton of cachet in that part of the world.
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*cachet
*gone
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Are we sure that's not because Harsin wasn't that interested in leaving Boise until recently?
If he’s interested in shark fossils.
'Buzzsaw Shark' fossil unearthed in eastern Idaho
The fossil was donated to Idaho Museum of Natural History by Monsanto, which found it during mining operations in the Soda Springs area.
www.ktvb.com
Expect an announcement soon.
HuskerHater
Well-Known Member
Sorry...it was a play off of BuffNYC's "cachet" comment. Not a great one, no less.
I was never handsome enough to do heroine in college. The hippie chicks seemed to like me though.
Shouldn't be a surprise that some backwards Michigan fans would think heroines shouldn't be permitted. They still haven't gotten comfortable with women being able to vote
hawg1
Well-Known Member
Inside the battle over Auburn’s coaching search
One group wanted Kevin Steele. Another wanted an open search. Here's a look behind the scenes of Auburn's decision to fire Gus Malzahn and hire Bryan Harsin.
www.al.com
Arizona's president should probably take note of how this was done. Regardless of people's opinions on how they think Harsin will do at Auburn, the process was done precisely how it should on how to hire without booster influence.Inside the battle over Auburn’s coaching search
One group wanted Kevin Steele. Another wanted an open search. Here's a look behind the scenes of Auburn's decision to fire Gus Malzahn and hire Bryan Harsin.
This article really gives me a different perspective on how Auburn is doing work with their athletic department and I actually hope Harsin does well there.
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