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The 2020 COVID Coaching Carousel
- Thread starter Duff Man
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Saban has earned more trust than probably any coach, at any level in history, but yeah that just seems strange.
He's decided to really test the abilities of his coaching rehabilitation services.
Why would Kelly leave ND for Florida?
Legit top three job in the country.
If Michigan was smart they would let him move on and throw the bank account at Campbell. That is a perfect match.
I'm not sure if you're serious but if you are why do you say that?
I approve of that message 100%, Campbell would do very well in Michigan!
Is Adam Gase's time on Peyton Manning's coattails finally over? My god, he is the Jeff Fisher 2.0 of terrible coaches that keep getting endless opportunities!
Name the jobs which are better.
Gase is not even close to Fisher.
What are the primary factors that make a CFB job great?
I can name at least a dozen which are at least on par as far as top programs and support from both the boosters and administration. You can argue where these programs below rank but as @TSchekler said what makes a CFB job great and what do you think it is that separates Florida from these jobs and makes them a top 3 job?
in no particular order:
Alabama
tOSU
USC
OU
Texas
Clemson
FSU
Georgia
Penn State
LSU
Michigan
Texas A&M
ND
Auburn
I would say Florida is a top 10 job, maybe top 5, but top 3? I don't see it.
I would say, in order, the top jobs are:
1. Bama
2. tOSU
3. Michigan
4. ND
5. USC
after the top 5 it gets a little harder to rank, but in no particular order, I would suggest: Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, Penn State, LSU, to round out a top 10.
What makes a great job?
$$$$
Tradition (i.e. getting the benefit of a doubt in bowl, CFP consideration because of your blueblood status)
Major Conference
Recruiting success through name recognition
Maniacal alumni support
I would say, in order, the top jobs are:
1. Bama
2. tOSU
3. Michigan
4. ND
5. USC
after the top 5 it gets a little harder to rank, but in no particular order, I would suggest: Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, Penn State, LSU, to round out a top 10.
What makes a great job?
$$$$
Tradition (i.e. getting the benefit of a doubt in bowl, CFP consideration because of your blueblood status)
Major Conference
Recruiting success through name recognition
Maniacal alumni support
We have this discussion a lot around here. I agree that UF is a top job. They have an administration that is committed to winning, they are in a recruiting paradise, they have fantastic fan support, it’s a very good school, they make a metric ton of money and can afford just about anybody they want. Academic restrictions are minimal, and they don’t have to deal with a lot of booster interference (aka Texas). The weather is nicer than in the Midwest, too. Lots of advantages.
I am in no way disputing Duff's assertion. Florida is clearly a top job.
I just think there are probably 10-15 places in the country where the $$ is going to be essentially the same, the booster support is there, the recruiting grounds are equal, the tradition and reputation are similar, etc.
So what else makes a great job? Administrative Support? Academic leniency? Obviously ND and Michigan don't have the same academic leniency as Florida, Alabama, etc, so that probably puts them down the list a bit.
I just think there are probably 10-15 places in the country where the $$ is going to be essentially the same, the booster support is there, the recruiting grounds are equal, the tradition and reputation are similar, etc.
So what else makes a great job? Administrative Support? Academic leniency? Obviously ND and Michigan don't have the same academic leniency as Florida, Alabama, etc, so that probably puts them down the list a bit.
I feel like duff is trolling based on his comments on jobs before. But if you rank jobs within conferences then you can argue which ones are better between then.
ACC: Clemson, Florida state and Miami (although I am reluctant to put Miami in there)
SEC: Georgia, Florida, LSU and Alabama
Big 12: Texas and Oklahoma
Pac 12: USC
Big 10: Ohio State
From that list I think it is pretty clear USC, Ohio State, Texas, Georgia, LSU, Bama Clemson and the current winner of recruiting in Florida (Miami, Florida and Florida state) are the top jobs. Florida has a lot of institutional advantages over Florida state and Miami but they also have a hell of a lot more competition for their division let alone the conference).
ACC: Clemson, Florida state and Miami (although I am reluctant to put Miami in there)
SEC: Georgia, Florida, LSU and Alabama
Big 12: Texas and Oklahoma
Pac 12: USC
Big 10: Ohio State
From that list I think it is pretty clear USC, Ohio State, Texas, Georgia, LSU, Bama Clemson and the current winner of recruiting in Florida (Miami, Florida and Florida state) are the top jobs. Florida has a lot of institutional advantages over Florida state and Miami but they also have a hell of a lot more competition for their division let alone the conference).
Zero chance ND and Michigan are too 5 jobs.
Agree with pretty much every job on there except NOTRE DAME. I think that is a terrible job in terms of really being able to win or live up to expectations. Florida has all the talent they need within 2 hours of campus, and Spurrier was killing it and so was Urban. What is their problem with not getting it going again!
That's a solid list. Not sure I'd have FSU or Auburn on there, but to your point, I'm not sure how Florida separates itself from that list to be top 3.
The issue of “top jobs” is debated almost as much as whether stars matter. In the end, it’s subjective. UF might be a great job for one guy and not so good for another. It does have a lot of built in advantages that make it easier to win there and make a ****load of money doing so.
Clay Helton has to be gone this year, right? 7 seasons at USC and he hasn't sniffed a CFP.
That's too bad since I was planning to follow them more next season since they have a QB that is supposed to be more of a Mullen type of QB who happens to be a local player.
That article talking about the changes coming to college football...the challenges of building a consistent winner could be good news for struggling programs.
What's criteria you're using?