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14er said:
So him dying for his convictions is something to look up to?

Here is a whole bunch of people who stuck to their convictions.

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Look up to? Maybe that’s not really the right term. I wouldn’t do the same thing in the same situation, so I can’t really say I look up to that set of choices. I do respect it, though. I think a lot of folks here are having difficulty separating agreement with his choice from respect for what he gave up to make that choice. Two very different things.
 
Not Sure said:
Look up to? Maybe that’s not really the right term. I wouldn’t do the same thing in the same situation, so I can’t really say I look up to that set of choices. I do respect it, though. I think a lot of folks here are having difficulty separating agreement with his choice from respect for what he gave up to make that choice. Two very different things.
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It's a vaccine. What a hero.
 
Not Sure said:
It’s possible to vehemently disagree with him and his actions while acknowledging the fact that he gave up everything he has for what he believes. I don’t have to have those same beliefs to respect that. The easy thing to do would be to get the stupid vaccine. Call him stupid, crazy, hypocritical, reckless, shortsighted, moronic, etc. I can’t argue against any of those descriptors. But you can’t say he isn’t a man who sticks to his convictions.
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What does he believe?
 
SerenityBuff said:
What does he believe?
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I think this is my issue, and Duff also mentioned it. He would have you believe he is standing strong in his convictions, values and beliefs, but has never addressed any of this publicly or talked about what, specifically, he believes and why. So at this point, as SINK said, the value he is standing strong for is stubbornness and being susceptible to Right wing propaganda
 
SerenityBuff said:
What does he believe?
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That he doesn’t want to take the vaccine. That much is clear. Why he doesn’t want to take it remains a mystery, and I’m not going to speculate on that. I really don’t care, to be honest.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
I think this is my issue, and Duff also mentioned it. He would have you believe he is standing strong in his convictions, values and beliefs, but has never addressed any of this publicly or talked about what, specifically, he believes and why. So at this point, as SINK said, the value he is standing strong for is stubbornness and being susceptible to Right wing propaganda
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Who needs both sides of a conversation when we have benevolent leaders to do our thinking for us? Muh Science!
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
I think this is my issue, and Duff also mentioned it. He would have you believe he is standing strong in his convictions, values and beliefs, but has never addressed any of this publicly or talked about what, specifically, he believes and why. So at this point, as SINK said, the value he is standing strong for is stubbornness and being susceptible to Right wing propaganda
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Doesn’t matter much to me why he doesn’t want to take it. If he just said “it’s a personal choice” would that make everyone happy or should he need to power point it with visuals?

I’m in the camp that respects someone who sticks to their convictions.
 
BuffTuff said:
Doesn’t matter much to me why he doesn’t want to take it. If he just said “it’s a personal choice” would that make everyone happy or should he need to power point it with visuals?

I’m in the camp that respects someone who sticks to their convictions.
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it’s not a personal choice. It’s a public health matter. It affects other people. Even elementary school kids need vaccinations to attend kindergarten.
 
SerenityBuff said:
it’s not a personal choice. It’s a public health matter. It affects other people. Even elementary school kids need vaccinations to attend kindergarten.
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I disagree. Any medication of any kind is a personal choice.
You can still choose not to vaccinate your child despite the public school requirements.
 
BuffTuff said:
I disagree. Any medication of any kind is a personal choice.
You can still choose not to vaccinate your child despite the public school requirements.
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That's absolutely not true. And not if you want to attend said school. His choice was not the vaccine, it was whether to keep his job or not. He chose to get fired.
 
BuffTuff said:
I disagree. Any medication of any kind is a personal choice.
You can still choose not to vaccinate your child despite the public school requirements.
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There are a lot of personal choices that people make and they shouldn’t be respected simply because they are willfully ignorant. As 96 mentioned, do you respect racists and homophobic people for sticking to their convictions?
 
BuffTuff said:
I disagree. Any medication of any kind is a personal choice.
You can still choose not to vaccinate your child despite the public school requirements.
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That it was obvious in my post that you could make that choice and homeschool your child.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
There are a lot of personal choices that people make and they shouldn’t be respected simply because they are willfully ignorant. As 96 mentioned, do you respect racists and homophobic people for sticking to their convictions?
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Can’t tell if serious. It’s possible to analyze situations independently without applying to all situations in which someone holds strong beliefs.
 
Not Sure said:
Let me know when your six year old gives up his college fund to avoid eating his grapes.
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Dumbest response ever. You're defending a guy that doesn't even know what he believes.

Mods may need to prune this thread soon to a new one where anti-vaxxers defend clueless guy.
 
BuffTuff said:
Can’t tell if serious. It’s possible to analyze situations independently without applying to all situations in which someone holds strong beliefs.
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So you’re not actually saying you respect him having high conviction, but that you respect his conviction of being an anti vaxxer.
 
Duff Man said:
Rolovich chose not to engage at all in the conversation, but okay.
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There are a couple dozen posts in the past hour or so that I wish hadn't engaged in the conversation. **** politics, **** political posts, **** the ****s that post political posts. Put the ****ing political posts in the ****ing political folder where I have it on ignore.
 
Big Jim said:
There are a couple dozen posts in the past hour or so that I wish hadn't engaged in the conversation. **** politics, **** political posts, **** the ****s that post political posts. Put the ****ing political posts in the ****ing political folder where I have it on ignore.
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Its actually more of a public health debate, but okay.
 
Big Jim said:
There are a couple dozen posts in the past hour or so that I wish hadn't engaged in the conversation. **** politics, **** political posts, **** the ****s that post political posts. Put the ****ing political posts in the ****ing political folder where I have it on ignore.
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Maybe Rolovich should have left politics out of sports amiright?
 
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