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And this thread has gone straight to the crapper. I guess it just isn’t possible, given the state of the program and coming off yet another blowout, to discuss the possibility that CU football can be good, or even great, again.

Parr of it is that people are so depressed or pissed that they can't understand the point of the thread. (Or are so drunk their reading comprehension skills suck.)
 
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And this thread has gone straight to the crapper. I guess it just isn’t possible, given the state of the program and coming off yet another blowout, to discuss the possibility that CU football can be good, or even great, again.
CU can be good even bordering on great again in football. Having 50,000 people show up to see a terrible CU team beat a lousy Cal team is only the latest indicator of that.

Unfortunately that is going to require significant changes above the level of who is the football coach or athletic director.

Until those changes are made and the university decides that not embarrassing ourselves weekly on TV matters then our conversation will be wasted.
 
The original post was about what needs to happen to turn it around. They could lose every one of the remaining games and it does not change the premise of what I was suggesting. Nothing at all
Yeah, the rest of this season and Sanford has nothing to do with how CU can turn it around. Hiring a good new coach, AD, Chancellor, and fixing transfer issues has everything to do with turning it around
 
Of course it can be done. I question the willingness to do what is needed to get it done, though. But yeah, it’s definitely possible.
 
Just seeing your Twitter interaction @Buffnik about the training table at CU. Feel like this is as good as any thread for it, but I'm curious to know what the specific complaints have been about the food? Lack of variety? The taste sucks? Not enough?

Maybe I'm wrong, but this feels like the kind of thing kids like to complain about virtually everywhere. Only surfacing here because we suck so hard and we're looking for reasons.

I suspect our players are smaller/weaker because they were smaller/weaker recruits. Additionally, lifting and bulking up is a grind. If you're playing for a team that sucks with sucky coaches who aren't motivational, you'll see that in your offseason weightlifting results.
 
Maybe I'm wrong, but this feels like the kind of thing kids like to complain about virtually everywhere. Only surfacing here because we suck so hard and we're looking for reasons.

I suspect our players are smaller/weaker because they were smaller/weaker recruits. Additionally, lifting and bulking up is a grind. If you're playing for a team that sucks with sucky coaches who aren't motivational, you'll see that in your offseason weightlifting results.
Yeah, I'm just wondering what the complaints have been. What does Alabama's training table look like relative to CU's? I remember hearing that Chip Kelly implemented a higher standard of food when he got to UCLA that was costing the program a few million more every year, but they were providing 5 star restaurant quality food that isn't normal.
 
I was a lowly serf when I worked in Folsom a few years ago as a student, but from my peasant eyes, the food seemed fine and the complaining was unwarranted imo.

There are a lot of legitimate criticisms of the AD, but I would put food wayyyyyyyyyy down the list. Like anything, it can be improved, but definitely not worth complaining about. They actually have worked to improve food for athletes and walkons.

Most of the complaints are similar to kids going into the C4C and saying there aren’t chicken nuggets while ignoring the healthier and vast options available to them.

There is plenty of food on campus for free for these guys. It is most likely a recruiting and training issue, but food isn’t the reason
 
Just seeing your Twitter interaction @Buffnik about the training table at CU. Feel like this is as good as any thread for it, but I'm curious to know what the specific complaints have been about the food? Lack of variety? The taste sucks? Not enough?

From a couple players back when my sister worked in the AD:
They are given a meal count (I believe 3) but each meal is relatively small. For a normal human eating 3 meals a day, they would be fine. For a football player trying to gain mass, they are not nearly enough. The taste was usually pretty bad as well.

And this part I can't recall, but I believe if they wanted a snack and not a full meal, they either had to use one of their 3 meals or pay out of pocket (reduced cost).

Another thing she specifically noticed while working here and at Michigan State with Tucker. The football team had their own group of nutritionists that would work with the players and then a group of nutritionists for the other sports whereas CU had nutritionists working with all athletes so they don't have time to come up with individual nutrition plans like they do at places like MSU.
 
From a couple players back when my sister worked in the AD:
They are given a meal count (I believe 3) but each meal is relatively small. For a normal human eating 3 meals a day, they would be fine. For a football player trying to gain mass, they are not nearly enough. The taste was usually pretty bad as well.

And this part I can't recall, but I believe if they wanted a snack and not a full meal, they either had to use one of their 3 meals or pay out of pocket (reduced cost).

Another thing she specifically noticed while working here and at Michigan State with Tucker. The football team had their own group of nutritionists that would work with the players and then a group of nutritionists for the other sports whereas CU had nutritionists working with all athletes so they don't have time to come up with individual nutrition plans like they do at places like MSU.
How are the meals "small"? Isn't it a buffet?
 
if it is, that's new since last year. They would go in and have the choice of two or three options
Two or three options that are already served on a plate or something? I feel like I've seen videos in the past where they show buffet style cafeteria in the CC.

If what you're saying is and has been the case across MacIntyre, Tucker and Dorrell, then it's a major problem
 
CU can be good even bordering on great again in football. Having 50,000 people show up to see a terrible CU team beat a lousy Cal team is only the latest indicator of that.

Unfortunately that is going to require significant changes above the level of who is the football coach or athletic director.

Until those changes are made and the university decides that not embarrassing ourselves weekly on TV matters then our conversation will be wasted.
PDS HAS TO GO or nothing gets better. I’m even willing to accept that RG can do his job if he’s not being sat on by that middling bureaucratic case study of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
 
Two or three options that are already served on a plate or something? I feel like I've seen videos in the past where they show buffet style cafeteria in the CC.

If what you're saying is and has been the case across MacIntyre, Tucker and Dorrell, then it's a major problem
Like 3 pre-selected options similar to what most of us probably experienced in elementary/middle/high school.

For example, one meal they always said was so nasty was the Blueberry Chicken. It was that plus like asparagus and mashed potatoes. But when they did that, their other option was like a veggie thing that definitely wasn't enough food.
 
tangent anecdote about feeding players in CFB that this discussion reminded me of:

a friend of mine was a safety for VT for two years. VT had a tradition that the winning team from the Spring Game got a dinner of steak and shrimp and the losing team got hot dogs.

my buddy's second year, the team was short on DB's, so he played for both teams. after the game, he got routed to the hot dog table and asked "WTF?". He was told that since the team he was initially assigned was the losing team, he got hot dogs. He responded with "was I only supposed to try half the time?"
 
Like 3 pre-selected options similar to what most of us probably experienced in elementary/middle/high school.

For example, one meal they always said was so nasty was the Blueberry Chicken. It was that plus like asparagus and mashed potatoes. But when they did that, their other option was like a veggie thing that definitely wasn't enough food.
That sounds worse than the Kittredge dorms which always a range of options, and you could go full on Bluto and load up as much as you wanted. If you wanted, three chicken fried steaks, you could take three chicken fried steaks.
 
Like 3 pre-selected options similar to what most of us probably experienced in elementary/middle/high school.

For example, one meal they always said was so nasty was the Blueberry Chicken. It was that plus like asparagus and mashed potatoes. But when they did that, their other option was like a veggie thing that definitely wasn't enough food.
Served buffet style, though, right? I have to imagine they can go back for more chicken or asparagus or mashed potatoes in that scenario if they want. If not, then yikes, but I would imagine this would be a far bigger issue than it is if players weren't being fed enough. The specific menu items or taste I can fully believe, unless they are taking food to-go, I have to believe they have access to as much of it as they want. Otherwise, the general student population is eating better than they are.
 
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