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Official realignment thread - SEC formally invites OU and Texas to join the conference in 2025

Napper said:
I’m surprised you want to be associated with schools like Michigan, Penn State, Ohio State, and MSU. All have had really bad sexual abuse scandals. Why the change in attitude?
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We are in a conference with USC who agreed to a $852M settlement of a sexual harrassment lawsuit involving 700 women that were abused by the school's longtime gyncelogist. Combined with another case, that is over $1B USC is paying.

www.cnbc.com

USC agrees to $852 million payout in sex abuse lawsuit

Dr. George Tyndall, 74, faces 35 criminal counts of alleged sexual misconduct between 2009 and 2016 at the university's student health center.
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Michigan State paid $500M for a similar case.
 
Bill Cody said:
I understand that part. I guess I question whether or not CU would ever support spending that kind of money on a CFB staff. Maybe it’s easier with all the money in the AD, but the political fighting over approval would be nauseating at best.
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I think the political fighting we’ve seen from a couple Regents during contract time is just grandstanding for a few people voicing their agenda while knowing their abstaining or “No” votes won’t actually stop anything.
 
Napper said:
I’m surprised you want to be associated with schools like Michigan, Penn State, Ohio State, and MSU. All have had really bad sexual abuse scandals. Why the change in attitude?
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Absolutely not a fan of the conduct of some of the league schools, you could add a couple more who have at minimum covered up rapes.

The PAC though isn't exactly pure as fresh snow.

In addition to USC as Jalapeno listed we have other schools protecting rapist, among other crimes, the latest ignoring Covid rules with recruits.

Not okay with any of them but don't pretend like our current conference is guilt free.
 
Quarantini said:
Cliffs?
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It’s no coincidence, then, that 27 of the conference’s 30 most-viewed regular-season games over those two seasons involved the Sooners and/or the Longhorns
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The 22 Oklahoma games included in the two-year sample averaged 3.76 million viewers. The 18 Texas games averaged 3.2 million. The other 59 Big 12 games averaged a modest 886,000 viewers, less than 25 percent of Oklahoma’s average.
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Perhaps the most telling sign of how disproportionately important OU and UT were to those companies is that 33 of the 38 Big 12 games chosen for ABC or Fox — 87 percent — involved one or both of those schools
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I think the P12 is likely a little more balanced ratings wise, but I do worry about what happens to the conference if a couple of schools say they will no longer accept equal revenue sharing.
 
Anyone with ready access to the data...

Since the last round of expansion, am I correct in my perception that the XII and Pac have been the two most competitive conferences?
 
hokiehead said:
Anyone with ready access to the data...

Since the last round of expansion, am I correct in my perception that the XII and Pac have been the two most competitive conferences?
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Define "competitive."

Win/Loss record against other conferences?
Championships/Playoff appearances?
Highest number of different teams playing in conference championship game? (i.e. competitive balance?)
Most ranked teams? (lots of ways to measure this, # of weeks, # of teams, etc)
 
skibum said:
Define "competitive."

Win/Loss record against other conferences?
Championships/Playoff appearances?
Highest number of different teams playing in conference championship game? (i.e. competitive balance?)
Most ranked teams? (lots of ways to measure this, # of weeks, # of teams, etc)
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Thanks, I wasn't very clear. I meant competitive within the conference.

I should have phrased, "i perceive the XII and Pac have had the most parity since the last round".
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
Oklahoma has won every Big 12 Championship since realignment. It’s pretty much been the same as the ACC where one team has dominated
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While that is true, I think the B12 has had far, far more teams ranked (and highly ranked) than the ACC during that same time period.

No other B12 team has gotten over the hump, but OSU, BU, ISU & UT have all spent far more time in the rankings, and even the top 10, than any collection of ACC teams outside of Clemson.
 
skibum said:
While that is true, I think the B12 has had far, far more teams ranked (and highly ranked) than the ACC during that same time period.

No other B12 team has gotten over the hump, but OSU, BU, ISU & UT have all spent far more time in the rankings, and even the top 10, than any ACC team outside of Clemson.
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Really? ISU maybe a couple times under Campbell and Baylor a bit under Briles but I don’t feel like either have sustained it. Texas has had a couple moments over the past decade but have been largely mediocre. ACC has had FSU win the Natty and Miami was a NY6 team a few years ago. Maybe I’m just not remembering
 


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The Alabaster Yak said:
Really? ISU maybe a couple times under Campbell and Baylor a bit under Briles but I don’t feel like either have sustained it. Texas has had a couple moments over the past decade but have been largely mediocre. ACC has had FSU win the Natty and Miami was a NY6 team a few years ago. Maybe I’m just not remembering
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I decided to look for some data, and the best easiest I could find was Total Appearances in the College Football Playoff Rankings so, from 2014-2020.

#1 Clemson 42
#4 Oklahoma 40

#9 Oklahoma State 29
#17 **** Baylor 20
#23 TCU 19
#23 FSU 19
#27 ISU 15
#30 WVU 14
#32 UNC 12
#37 Miami 11
#37 Texas 11
#40 VT 10
#40 NC State 10
#44 KSU 9
#51 Georgia Tech 6
#51 Syracuse 6
#64 Boston College 3
#64 Duke 3
#64 Pitt 3
#64 UVA 3
#73 Wake Forest 1

Big 12: 117
ACC: 87

Those 7 straight teams at the bottom could be an argument that the "dregs" of the ACC are better than their counterparts in the B12, but at the top you have OSU and **** Bailor ahead of FSU, and FSU is itself tied with TCU, then you've got ISU and WVU before you get to the next ACC team, UNC. Miami and UT are tied, and then the ACC wins out from there.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
Really? ISU maybe a couple times under Campbell and Baylor a bit under Briles but I don’t feel like either have sustained it. Texas has had a couple moments over the past decade but have been largely mediocre. ACC has had FSU win the Natty and Miami was a NY6 team a few years ago. Maybe I’m just not remembering
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That off quoted athletic article lnked above shows the b12 has done well in rankings beyond ou and ut. The data is all there
 
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