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If you were RG, what facilities project would you prioritize?

Which facilities project would you prioritize?

  • Option A (Folsom & CEC)

  • Option B (Creek & Kitt)


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In case anyone noticed the Well Off Videos, when we scrimmage inside the IPF, they cannot use the endzones and shrink the field to 80 yards because of the track.

I strongly feel that an indoor Track-Soccer-Lacrosse Building over on East Campus next to the Soccer and Track Facilities would be epic and would allow for the IPF to put in a new matching full size field with sides and ends that would be better for practice, scrimmage, and Pro Days.

EDIT: If you want to do an indoor track event, you can still bring in a travelling curved and sloped track and put it over the turf.
 
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In case anyone noticed the Well Off Videos, when we scrimmage inside the IPF, they cannot use the endzones and shrink the field to 80 yards because of the track.

I strongly feel that an indoor Track-Soccer-Lacrosse Building over on East Campus next to the Soccer and Track Facilities would be epic and would allow for the IPF to put in a new matching full size field with sides and ends that would be better for practice, scrimmage, and Pro Days.

EDIT: If you want to do an indoor track event, you can still bring in a travelling curved and sloped track and put it over the turf.
We have the outdoor fields (as in 4 of them) if we want regulation. No need to make extra unnecessary expenditures. It’s not like we’re in the south where it can get to 100+ consistently in fall camp.
 
We have the outdoor fields (as in 4 of them) if we want regulation. No need to make extra unnecessary expenditures. It’s not like we’re in the south where it can get to 100+ consistently in fall camp.
1 key injury plus inability to practice full field, plus appearances matter. It is a plus for all programs and gives Track, Soccer, and Lacrosse more autonomy.
I could see Franklin also getting turf
 
In case anyone noticed the Well Off Videos, when we scrimmage inside the IPF, they cannot use the endzones and shrink the field to 80 yards because of the track.

I strongly feel that an indoor Track-Soccer-Lacrosse Building over on East Campus next to the Soccer and Track Facilities would be epic and would allow for the IPF to put in a new matching full size field with sides and ends that would be better for practice, scrimmage, and Pro Days.

EDIT: If you want to do an indoor track event, you can still bring in a travelling curved and sloped track and put it over the turf.

Yup. We should tear it down and close Colorado and build a new one thats wider.
 
Yup. We should tear it down and close Colorado and build a new one thats wider.
The building is huge
It just has a track that was not built bigger
If the building was 10 yards longer and 10 yards wider it would be amazing
It was not
I built indoor sports complexes! Whoever designed that was stupid, do not defend it.
My solution is to accept that stupid design, build a $3-$4 Million basic indoor center on East Campus, then fully turf the IPF and it would be a beautiful football complex. With a turf stadium and indoor building, Franklin should also be turf, plus it is the tailgating spot. The two grass fields down by the creek should be kept so the team could practice prior to a grass stadium game.
 
In case anyone noticed the Well Off Videos, when we scrimmage inside the IPF, they cannot use the endzones and shrink the field to 80 yards because of the track.

I strongly feel that an indoor Track-Soccer-Lacrosse Building over on East Campus next to the Soccer and Track Facilities would be epic and would allow for the IPF to put in a new matching full size field with sides and ends that would be better for practice, scrimmage, and Pro Days.

EDIT: If you want to do an indoor track event, you can still bring in a travelling curved and sloped track and put it over the turf.
Man! You really do not like our IPF, do you? 😆
 
The building is huge
It just has a track that was not built bigger
If the building was 10 yards longer and 10 yards wider it would be amazing
It was not
I built indoor sports complexes! Whoever designed that was stupid, do not defend it.
My solution is to accept that stupid design, build a $3-$4 Million basic indoor center on East Campus, then fully turf the IPF and it would be a beautiful football complex. With a turf stadium and indoor building, Franklin should also be turf, plus it is the tailgating spot. The two grass fields down by the creek should be kept so the team could practice prior to a grass stadium game.
A regulation soccer field is 120 yards by 80 yards. The building with bleachers would have to be, like, 180 yards by 150 yards or something. That would be 250,000 SF. If you could build it for, say, $200 per SF, that would cost $50 million.
 
In case anyone noticed the Well Off Videos, when we scrimmage inside the IPF, they cannot use the endzones and shrink the field to 80 yards because of the track.

I strongly feel that an indoor Track-Soccer-Lacrosse Building over on East Campus next to the Soccer and Track Facilities would be epic and would allow for the IPF to put in a new matching full size field with sides and ends that would be better for practice, scrimmage, and Pro Days.

EDIT: If you want to do an indoor track event, you can still bring in a travelling curved and sloped track and put it over the turf.

You have been as relentless on this topic as the Indian scammers have been on mobile phones. If the CU AD was seeing this, they would just delete the message and report as junk.
 
A regulation soccer field is 120 yards by 80 yards. The building with bleachers would have to be, like, 180 yards by 150 yards or something. That would be 250,000 SF. If you could build it for, say, $200 per SF, that would cost $50 million.
Let him cook, DBT! Just need $3-$4m to build a basic facility!
 
Let him cook, DBT! Just need $3-$4m to build a basic facility!
According to my research the cost of a prefabricated Butler type building is $25 to $50 per square foot. So one big enough to house a regulation sized soccer field would be in the $6 million to $12 million range.

But CU has architectural standards that may require something a bit more high end than a metal building. My gut tells me that a building like that in Boulder would cost significantly more. But I’ve never been a good cost estimator!
 
He also thinks that 4-5 concerts at Folsom would generate enough money to fund the west side expansion/renovation.
50k for a game. I'll be generous and assume they can fit that many for concerts and sell them all out (current estimations are 43k for a concert).

Assume average tickets are $200, again, I'm being generous, and they can still sell out at that rate.

5*50000*$200 = $50m in top line revenue.

Assume the school gets 20% of that (I suspect that's generous also, but have nothing to back it) --> $10m/year.
 
The building is huge
It just has a track that was not built bigger
If the building was 10 yards longer and 10 yards wider it would be amazing
It was not
I built indoor sports complexes! Whoever designed that was stupid, do not defend it.
My solution is to accept that stupid design, build a $3-$4 Million basic indoor center on East Campus, then fully turf the IPF and it would be a beautiful football complex. With a turf stadium and indoor building, Franklin should also be turf, plus it is the tailgating spot. The two grass fields down by the creek should be kept so the team could practice prior to a grass stadium game.
Your basic indoor center on the East Campus is more like 25-50 million.

There is absolutely zero reason to put ANY money into anything but Football. Maybe throw men’s basketball a tiny bone. But in the grand scheme, men’s basketball is also irrelevant.
 
Your basic indoor center on the East Campus is more like 25-50 million.

There is absolutely zero reason to put ANY money into anything but Football. Maybe throw men’s basketball a tiny bone. But in the grand scheme, men’s basketball is also irrelevant.
Probably right with architecture and current costs
Not thinking straight lately, sorry, family stuff
My core point is that if Football matters the most, then remove the track in IPF, make full size football field (also serves Soccer and Lacrosse, and build a smaller track building that does not need to be huge or tall.
 
Probably right with architecture and current costs
Not thinking straight lately, sorry, family stuff
My core point is that if Football matters the most, then remove the track in IPF, make full size football field (also serves Soccer and Lacrosse, and build a smaller track building that does not need to be huge or tall.

Given the cost and time it took to finally get an IPF (and that even includes the old blow up IPF), I would not count on another IPF being built on the campus anytime soon.

We won a football national championship when the football team used Balch for indoor football practices so the size of the playing field is irrelevant.
 
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Probably right with architecture and current costs
Not thinking straight lately, sorry, family stuff
My core point is that if Football matters the most, then remove the track in IPF, make full size football field (also serves Soccer and Lacrosse, and build a smaller track building that does not need to be huge or tall.
They have a 3 story parking garage to run around in.
 
Your basic indoor center on the East Campus is more like 25-50 million.

There is absolutely zero reason to put ANY money into anything but Football. Maybe throw men’s basketball a tiny bone. But in the grand scheme, men’s basketball is also irrelevant.
acknowledging that hoops doesn't drive revenue, much less profit, I think it's a valuable PR tool for the university if the team is performing well. I can't think of anything else that gets more attention for a university outside of football season.
 
acknowledging that hoops doesn't drive revenue, much less profit, I think it's a valuable PR tool for the university if the team is performing well. I can't think of anything else that gets more attention for a university outside of football season.
I think we all acknowledge that - even those of us who are as big of fans of hoops as we are of football.

The point has been that there are things on promotion, fan & student engagement, and S&C which cost very little and just take time & attention (i.e., GAF) which could result in the court sports winning more in a better environment which would result in the court sports being at least revenue neutral as a budgetary bucket.
 
West side of Folsom needs to be next with increased seating at all pricing levels (suites and standard seating, amenities, restrooms, concessions etc. I love folsom and even cleaned it up after games for ROTC fundraising back as a student but the west side just looks sad. Games are so expensive now and CU has to meet those loyal fans half way for all the money spent on going to games. Renovations will increase revenue to support the NIL which is the most important thing now in this mercenary athlete culture. Agree with the comment regarding turf on Franklin field. IPF may not be a perfect solution to some but its good enough.
 
West side of Folsom needs to be next with increased seating at all pricing levels (suites and standard seating, amenities, restrooms, concessions etc. I love folsom and even cleaned it up after games for ROTC fundraising back as a student but the west side just looks sad. Games are so expensive now and CU has to meet those loyal fans half way for all the money spent on going to games. Renovations will increase revenue to support the NIL which is the most important thing now in this mercenary athlete culture. Agree with the comment regarding turf on Franklin field. IPF may not be a perfect solution to some but its good enough.
Something will be announced this summer
 
I’ve recently visited both the campuses of Missouri and Arkansas. After those visits I can say definitively that I have no idea how Arkansas competes. They’ve crammed every sport under the sun right on top of each other, I have no idea where people park on game day and the facilities were not very good. Oh and they’d better not hire a coach who worries about a spy watching them practice. Mizzou had better facilities but neither come anywhere close to CU right now…and don’t even get me started on the rest of either campus.

That said, the west side of Folsom desperately needs to be redone and please can we get rid of the high school bench seating?? The only thing that bench seating is good for is cold weather games when you enjoy the heat of your neighbor who is sitting on top of you (or you them).
 
I think those aluminum benches are a nightmare in the cold weather games.

I suspect that at some point, they’ll move the students out of section 117 so they can put chairback seating in the middle three sections on the East side and do the same on the west side. While that’s good, it will come at a cost for those ticket holders, which means my cost goes up again. 😕
 
I think those aluminum benches are a nightmare in the cold weather games.

I suspect that at some point, they’ll move the students out of section 117 so they can put chairback seating in the middle three sections on the East side and do the same on the west side. While that’s good, it will come at a cost for those ticket holders, which means my cost goes up again. 😕
Worth the cost. I don’t think they will do that until the west side is redone as they will lose a decent amount of capacity with chair backs.
 
I would be thrilled with chair back seating although I feel like most colleges don’t do that? Am I wrong here but I can’t recall a single college stadium I’ve been to that had chair backs.
 
there must be funds held back for the construction of the Coach Prime statue. it should be in style of nd's touchdown Jesus but it should be taller.
 
I would be thrilled with chair back seating although I feel like most colleges don’t do that? Am I wrong here but I can’t recall a single college stadium I’ve been to that had chair backs.

UNC has almost all chair back seating in Carolina blue. Only student section has benches I think.
 
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