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'20 CO QB Aidan Atkinson (Verbal to Northwestern)
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The poster who purports to be a Fairview H.S. senior seems to focus on "one victim" whereas the Boulder Daily Camera article's first paragraph states:
Once again, my post was lame, I didn't realize there were penetration allegations. I assumed this was 'grab-ass': a party bus on an Oct Saturday night - either a game night or they had a bye. How does someone 'inflict penetration' on 3 different young women, on a bus that likely had several more players on it, w/o someone stopping the action or a huge outcry afterwards. I never trust reporting, but if things were the way they were set out, then this may morph into one of those 'code of silence' cases, where the athletes protected their buddy and allowed things to happen, that they could have stopped.
First, there may have been other players or not on this bus. This was not a football event as I understand it.
2nd, there is no mention of penetration of 3 victims that I've seen. There are 3 victims, but did I miss that all charges brought were for all 3 victims?
And this could be where the time element came in.
With a lack of physical evidence the case comes down to the testimony of multiple victims.
If (understandably) one or more is resistant to cooperating then it has to be handled with more patience.
I'm going off other posts saying 3 victims were penetrated - that's been stated several times. A student party bus in the middle of football season, w/ several intoxicated young ladies - what was it a church outing? Players drinking would have been a huge problem, if that happened
Weird agendas running around in here
Trump's Eunuch
I'm 6'4" and "own a gym" (not in my basement)
Hopefully people also remember not everything they hear in the internet is true and as of right now it's nothing but what a couple of people said happened
No kidding. Probably some parent with money just gives kid credit card
Trump's Eunuch
I'm 6'4" and "own a gym" (not in my basement)
Oh **** you having daughters has nothing to do with it. It's called being a good person, no sane person in America thinks this behavior is acceptable. However, we (on this forum) need to remember not every allegation is true, I think most of us remember Gary Barnett. This is an unfortunate situation
numerous posters said that because they have daughters they feel bad for the victims. Personally I was able to have empathy for sexual assault victims prior to having a daughter but I guess I’m in the minority.
I think you are over analyzing.
Trump's Eunuch
I'm 6'4" and "own a gym" (not in my basement)
No you're not in the minority and you're certainly not a victim in this here. I really hope these father's shared the same feelings about sexual assault before they had daughters
Trust me on this one, I have always been repulsed by the idea of a woman having to deal with this ultimate invasion of her privacy and dignity. I have always had Mom, my sisters, and later my wife.
I will tell you though that having daughters doesn't change the feeling about the issue but it makes them even more present and real.
Judge away then.
Mods can you change the thread status to "Committed to Cañón City"?
Ok, that might have been too soon.
Ok, that might have been too soon.
That’s a weird interpretation. I read those comments as “because I have a daughter, these allegations hit a little closer to home than they would otherwise”. That seems perfectly reasonable to me.
I’m not sure I could say anything that you’d agree with.
When I see something awful happen to kids my kid’s ages, I have a great deal of empathy and may say something like, “As a parent of a kid this age, I know how much pain their parents feel.” It isn’t because I wouldn’t feel horrible for them if I had no kids. It’s because you personalize it more. But Now I realize I must be an awful person.
Yes- if a girl made unwanted sexual advances towards a boy then she should be held to the same standard. However, even if she did that she still has the right to withdraw consent for any further activity.
Men (even 17 year old boys) are so much larger and more powerful than their female counterparts that the responsibility in a situation where one or both parties are inebriated can and should rest with them.
im tired of excusing stuff like this as “teens will be teens.” I think expecting teens to behave while participating in adult activities to an adult standard is reasonable. 17 year olds can drive and they get the same speeding tickets as the rest of us.
JOEinDenver
National Championship or Bust
Isn’t it time to move it to a thread of it’s own, not on the recruiting forum for recruitment.
Absolutely.
Age is not an excuse. Any person, male or female must have the absolute right to say no, even at the last moment after a long build up.
The other party (parties) at that point have the obligation to at that point stop and respect the no despite their own wishes and desires. The use of alcohol or any other substance doesn't change this. If a person cannot control themselves at this highly critical level of decision making then they have to make the decision not to consume the substance.
I understand peer pressure, and media messages, and role models, and all the other excuses but the bottom line is that when it comes down to violating the right of someone else to say no when it comes to their body there is no excuse for not respecting that no.