GoldenSkier
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Ideally for me would be to see Edwards, lang, antwine, and mulumba in a quick rotation or even in a 4-3 from time to time to throw multiple looks and get some exotic buff backer blitzes etc.
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2018 Defense
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Ideally for me would be to see Edwards, lang, antwine, and mulumba in a quick rotation or even in a 4-3 from time to time to throw multiple looks and get some exotic buff backer blitzes etc.
8Jah
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Too me it all depends on what kind of defense we play. In 2016 we played an old school 3-4 with a 0-tech NT. Seemed very effective in the Pac12. Edwards is a 0-tech, but he wasn't a good one because he couldn't handle two gaps. That could be a learning how to play thing. Slow to decide = tentative, which let the center put him on his heels.
If we mix in some one gap 3-4 then id have to think that Franke could be a great NT. He is big enough and explosive. He just has short arms that slide off when he tackles.
I've been hoping that Franke would go on a Pericek program and come in this spring at 295....
GoldenSkier
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Interesting to see how Shamar Hamilton's knee is faring. Cartalige is a tough one to deal with.
cu62nu36
fascist tool
I think that's about what we did with Edwards in there too. The ASU game was as bad or worse than the AZ game (where Kalil Tate announced himself to the world and would have run wild on either Edwards or Franke). I think Edwards started and played the ASU game. That was woeful.
Is it easier for Edwards to lose 60 lbs. or for Franke to gain 20?
My point is that there are 2 gaping holes on the Buffs for next season (Nose Tackle and Off. Left Tackle) that need to be plugged with just average P12 caliber level play and there are limited resources to plug those holes. Why put all your eggs in 1 basket and let the season hinge on whether Edwards can lose 60 lbs. and that the JUCO light turns on? What's the contingency plan if neither of those events happen?
If (big if) Mustafa & Antwine can man the 3 technique and Mulumba & Lang can man the 5 technique then why wouldn't they beef the versatile Franke up and move him to NT to challenge Edwards? or at least Tuiloma for backup?
I think we're better served creating heated competition at NT than squandering Franke in a backup role at the 3 or 5.
The contingency plan is that Tuiloma is ready to step up to take on more snaps. Not a great option, but the Buffs do not have great options at the moment.
Franke is not being "squandered" in a backup role at the 3 or 5. That is what he is, a rotational guy. Trying to force him as a starter out of position is not much of a contingency plan.
cu62nu36
fascist tool
Well you may be right. I, like all Buff fans, hope that the magical transformation does indeed occur and we're ok at NT. Now on to LT ...
Sami will come out of the spring as the #1 NT, unblockable!
Well, I agree with you it seems the coaches have put a little too much faith into expecting Edwards to be a big-time player. Hopefully, someone else steps up.
2 years ago most of us thought Kafuvalo and Carrell were about as middling and "Rotational" as you could get. There were a few question marks regarding Drew Lewis, and Witherspoon, and I don't think many anticipated Julimisse stepping in to the DB role as a true freshman.
Looking ahead, players will be one year entrenched in our D, our recruiting has continued in a positive trajectory, and we haven't lost a myriad of players to graduation and the NFL.
Excited to see Landman, Callier and Sparaco as true Sophomores.
Looking forward to the year two jump of Juco players Wigley, Mulumba, and Edwards.
and hoping for some plug-n-play newbies in Davion Taylor, Mustafa Johnson, and Antwine!
KoolAid tastes fine
Looking ahead, players will be one year entrenched in our D, our recruiting has continued in a positive trajectory, and we haven't lost a myriad of players to graduation and the NFL.
Excited to see Landman, Callier and Sparaco as true Sophomores.
Looking forward to the year two jump of Juco players Wigley, Mulumba, and Edwards.
and hoping for some plug-n-play newbies in Davion Taylor, Mustafa Johnson, and Antwine!
KoolAid tastes fine
Some of this is true and some is being repeated way too much as truth.
The issues with Kafovalu were never about talent. He was always a guy just teetering on the edge of being off the team, but you could reasonably plug him as a reliable starter when he was focused. That is not the same as magically plugging an undersized Franke into a starting role as a fifth-year senior.
Julmisse played some as a true freshmen, but he was not anything more than a marginal CB at that point.
It is reasonable to expect some jumps this year from defensive players, but not sure the ceiling is all that high.
Julmisse was competing for playing time with 3 NFL corners, his athleticism and potential was not marginal. I felt it was a big blow to lose him last year.
I am not comparing Kafovalu to Franke, just stating (hoping) that expectations can turn like a light switch, hopefully things start clicking with our D.
His potential and athleticism were not marginal, but he was the #4 CB and was not really competing with the top three for playing time. He saw some time when injuries hit and flashed potential, but he was a spot contributor on that team.
We just need to put the guys in the fire. You'll get your answers pretty quickly on who's ready to play. We have guys on the back end who have ability and size, see how it translates to game action. Hope the dline figures it out quick, it'll help the D as a whole.
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ScottyBuff
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No love for Terriek Roberts at one of the DE spots, or at least in the 2-deep?
I would much rather see Mulumba and Mustafa at the 3-technique; Roberts-Lang-Finau at the 5-technique; Edwards-Tuiloma-Sami at the Nose; and have Franke-Antwine rotate in as "rush" DT in obvious passing downs and also in some 4-man fronts (along with a Sparaco/Callier/Tchangam at DE) to give the NTs a breather.
I would much rather see Mulumba and Mustafa at the 3-technique; Roberts-Lang-Finau at the 5-technique; Edwards-Tuiloma-Sami at the Nose; and have Franke-Antwine rotate in as "rush" DT in obvious passing downs and also in some 4-man fronts (along with a Sparaco/Callier/Tchangam at DE) to give the NTs a breather.
GoldenSkier
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Idk what to think of the defense this season. Honestly it could go any which way and I'm not confident in saying which direction. That being said, I reeeeeeaaally like the Davion Taylor addition. He has barely played any football and yet put up very impressive numbers in Juco becoming a 4* and a top Mississippi recruit. His athletic ability and attitude could seperate him quickly as an impact player.
Why should there be any love for Terriek Roberts at DE?
cu62nu36
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No, not really. I don't see him in the top 6 at DE (assuming Umu comes back). But what do I know really. That's just my bias because he's local and he never cracked the 2 deep last year.
I hope Terriek proves me to be a filthy liar with a big mouth.
I do intend to make it to 1 of the open practices coming up and all I intend to watch are the DL's and the OT's.
Roberts fits more into the 4-3 DE mold, IMO, which leaves him somewhat on the outside looking in with the current defense, as he's clearly not a stand up OLB. The Buffs site has him listed at 6'6" 270 lbs, so he still has about 20-30 lbs to go before he can factor in at DE in this defense.
BuffNut
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I Don't think it can go any which way, think it can only get better from last year, the question is how much.
DrunkRalphie
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No where to go but up.
GoldenSkier
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My skepticism comes from the loss of Oliver and Leguda.
Sykobuff
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Depends how our two jucos play. Udoffia and wigley had their ups and downs but played better by end of the year. Oliver is a big loss.
Laguda was a solid player, but a complete liability in coverage. He's replaceable. Oliver, OTOH, is going to be extremely hard to replace. I'm actually hoping to hear Chris Miller's name a lot this Spring.
Sykobuff
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Yes, I know many liked this young man and his game. I'm looking forward to that as well.
GoldenSkier
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It's just a lot of talent to lose in two years. But I'm optimistic about the juco guys this year. If nothing else I want much improved tackeling and more energy in the pass rush.
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