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Sounds like he is trying to set up something for his son's success
PrimeTimeBuffs
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"Organizational bible" is just a better way of saying "manifesto," right?
I think Belichick is framing this one to be “I wanted the job, but UNC said no to my requests.”
It’s all coming from that one reporter who I’ve never honestly heard of, he’s being BB’s mouthpiece.
Scott Frost quote after returning to UCF:
"When you're climbing the ladder of success in life, sometimes they forget to tell you to stop when you're happy."
I'll give credit for the life wisdom there. Good quote. I'll also give extra credit for the politically savvy way he said that Nebraska is a miserable fvcking horror show that crushed his soul.
"When you're climbing the ladder of success in life, sometimes they forget to tell you to stop when you're happy."
I'll give credit for the life wisdom there. Good quote. I'll also give extra credit for the politically savvy way he said that Nebraska is a miserable fvcking horror show that crushed his soul.
The theme of that press conference will be just like Frost’s at UCF.
Those situations maybe point to a trend for the college coaching profession. If you're happy, have total job security, a path to the playoffs and you are earning millions of dollars a year - why would you give that up to go to a place which will may you more money and make you more of a national celebrity but might chew you up and spit you out within 2-3 years?
I’ve always thought it would interesting to compare the lifetime earnings of a stable coaching career like Kirk Ferenz or a Kyle Whiitingham vs a jump around guy like Dan Mullen or Mike Norvell.
I think it is really interesting when you are a coach who defines the program. Too me Luke Fickle was Cincinnati football. I’ll bet there are many times when he wonders why he took that job.
I think you are right though, I’ll bet coaches will be a bit more cautious in the future.
I think Cignetti will be facing these choices soon.
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FIFY. Pretty widely accepted in Nub land that he had some problems with all of the above.
Mick Ronson
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i agree with you.....and Cincy did make the playoff with Fickle but Cincy did have D'Antonio, Brian Kelly, Food Cart, and Tommy Tuberville consecutively before Luke F. Pretty solid list.
My first "wow, Cincy is kinda good" memory was seeing them against OU one of the Sam Bradford teams I wanna say and Bearcats playing with a lot of attitude, really physical. I liked that.....even though Kelly seems like kind of scumbag to me now and has Notre Dame stink all over him.
Mick Ronson
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for all the Frost Warning BS and the NC at UCF or hiding in a closet while Phillips dragged a girl down stairs by her hair, or general NU barf......i always disliked him, as a kid growing up on option football in the Big 8.....while the Bugeaters won a NC with him....he was a second tier option QB. Not one of the greats. He was physical and that suited that era of Osborne's I option thing. No where near the magician, all timers first tier like Hagan, Tommie Frazer, Jamelle Holieway, Turner Gill, Thomas Lott, JC Watts, Beau Morgan.
he was capable and his physicalness offset some of world learning how to defend the option by the mid 90's. I also think Charles Thompson is way overrated by most these days. He was a an athletic freak but not one of the greats though every time Casey Thompson was on TV for UT or NU they played the all-timer card for CT.
And he was a convicted criminal. Hooray.
Wisconsin needs him so badly, and KU can now **** all the way off. I wonder if KU not wanting to/not being able to match UW's offer starts Leipold thinking he can't win long-term there.
/wishful thinking
Ok St is going to go on a Nebraska-after-Pelini run for about 20 years. Good riddance entitled ****s.
Gundy was a good option for coaching about 5-15 years ago, but he is the worst possible option for today's college football, especially with empowered black players. I do not think they will be good again, they are as much an Oregon State as they used to be an Oregon. Pickens is gone, and they are second fiddle in a small state
GRM
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I don't know. I think the main question in this saga was who could OSU get immediately to replace Gundy without destroying the program to its studs? The second question, does the football athletic department need to expand to remain competitive? I think OSU's admin was probably stuck since they had no great option and also needed reforms within the football infrastructure. Gundy had terrible season this year, yet so many 10+ win seasons in a tough place to play. They played in the CCG last year. Why not roll for another season? Other teams did this with embattled coaches.
I have a feeling that Gundy in agreeing to the contract restructure did not just flip that $$$ into NIL, rather it could go towards expanding OSU's football operations infrastructure. I think OSU has fallen behind in this regard. Some of the articles I read mentioned an overhaul vastly expanding so they are better in recruiting, retention, and the portal. Programs need the back end guys, which pay dividends if they are good. IMO, this is what Prime brought in and vastly improved year 1 to year 2, such that our portal and recruiting haul were much better compared to the past season. The past season was an upgrade but those were guys Prime brought with him alone, rather than competitive recruiting/portaling.
In this season's coaching carousel, only 4 P-4 teams parted with head coaches. A ton of programs are adding OC/DC or advisors with HCing experience, which I think are somewhat forced onto the head coach (aka Leavitt on MikeMac). I do not think this is a coincidence, as the new trend could be like MI appointing from within or at least having an interim option enough to stabilize things, even if that interim is not eventually hired. IMO, the AD's have to be very strategic with a longer term transition plan.
Next year, I think P-4 programs fire coaches earlier in the season, so they basically have a turn-key operation in place before the regular season even ends. This is regardless if the interim coach finishes the season well, as that could be Plan B. If Ryan Day lays an egg early next season, OSU many may not want Chip Kelly and CK may not want to HC, but they have a decent interim placeholder. Same with kNU, if Rhule lays an egg early, they have Holgorsen. FSU took on Malzahn. Other teams are following suit in this regard. These guys do not have to be the final hire.
I do not think a programs desire to be where UCF, West VA or UNC find themseleves facing a massive staff turnover/instability during recruiting or the portal period, plus not having people in place to salvage via the Dec Portal. Lincoln Riley did it well his 1st season, but has massively under performed since. I could be wrong but I think transitions will happen early in the season or maybe even after the Spring Portal sorts itself out. Although players can enter the portal immediately due to a HCing change, the players may be in school and have to finish the semester before they truly move.
unibuff
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I think their success will by directly tied to the price of a barrel of oil.
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I absolutely do. Either commit to the guy or fire him. Gundy being wishy-washy on staying in and Okie Lite being wishy-washy on their commitment to him serves no one. He's going to have a hell of a hard time landing recruits now.
He is going to struggle cause he is a lazy redneck that does not have Boone’s money anymore. Convince me that Oklahoma State is not Oregon State 2.0
They weren’t wishy washy with their commitment.
I'm excited about this one!
BuffBronco
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Will either be a genius move or an all-time cluster****
Just like Deion Sanders, hah
Black Icon that is friends with everyone cool
Old White guy known for Tom Brady's coach
This is a ploy to get his son a coaching job
The one thing he has going for him is his game planning, which at times is genius with good smart players, not sure many young players can master the discipline to play complex schemes, but we shall get our popcorn and find out
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