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I think the perception comes from a number of completely unnecessary backbreaking penalties in a number of games that he committed.
He was bad against KSU and KU so it wasn't just one bad game. I agree though that it's mostly blown out of proportion here. He's a mediocre player who will probably be a late day three draft pick or priority UDFA. I could see him making the PS for someone or carving out a niche on Special Teams, but I don't think he'll ever be a primary starter at Safety in the league.
What obvious mistakes did he make in the Kansas games? I know he didn't tackle well and committed a dumb penalty (hence pulled out by CP), but he pretty much always showed up in the right position.
I don't know about coverage responsibilities (neither does anyone here), but his tackling has just been glaringly poor at times, IMO, and when a Safety misses a tackle it tends to lead to big plays and everybody blames them. Of course very few people blame our DL or LBs for letting it get to the Secondary, but Shilo just isn't a difference maker in any way.
No argument there, he is pretty emotional and sometimes dumb when it comes to penalties.
I mean, tackling as a Safety is job 1b (with coverage responsibilities being 1a I guess), so yeah, not tackling well is a big deal.
Guys will get beat up front, which is why you need a safety valve. If the valve is loose, then you’re not safe!
Stoutmire is being played out of position right now because Hodge is out. We saw last year that Stoutmire isn't a CB and it's proving out that way again this year. When Stoutmire was playing Safety in place of Shilo, he was good.
Yes, but it doesn't mean Shilo doesn't have high football IQ. That's the only argument I want to make.
Update for those that were not yet published on Monday.
Watch the NDSU and Baylor games again. Come at it strictly from a coach's perspective watching isolation game film. He freelances way too often leading him to be out of position on a lot of plays because just like his brother, he believes he can make any play, any time. But unlike Shedeur, he is not talented enough to do so. He also knows he won't lose his position. In both the aforementioned games there were plays that at first glance seemed to be other players at fault, but watching again shows it was Shilo freelancing. Pick games from last year as well. You'll see a lot of the same issues.
I agree with the Baylor game, but the whole secondary played badly in the NDSU game. It's obviously that they didn't know how to play together yet with so many man beater calls from NDSU.
Maybe the SEC just sucks at offense this year.
I think he's a lot better than I believe he's seen on here, 247, or X.
Shilo would be around 72 if you remove the Kansas State game. It seems like we aren't going to give him the benefit of doubt for that game like we did for Travis against Stanford on defense.
Yeah. I'm done trying to fight this fight.
Yep. I think this is a very fair assessment.
Prime made it sound like it would be a game time decision during his press conference
