Maybe shes not that major.
If she was she’d tweet that she’ll pay all the buyouts.
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Build Rick George a Statue (was #fireRickGeorge)
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If she was she’d tweet that she’ll pay all the buyouts.
Nope and not fair. She was literally in the press for making a major donation. She put her money where her mouth is.Maybe shes not that major.
If she was she’d tweet that she’ll pay all the buyouts.
Makes the buyout less
She’s as major as we have.Maybe shes not that major.
If she was she’d tweet that she’ll pay all the buyouts.
Baloney. No competent businessperson would let RG into their pocket by promising to pay for all his screwups.Maybe shes not that major.
If she was she’d tweet that she’ll pay all the buyouts.
So this thread (and others) got me to thinking about the relative strengths and weaknesses of all of the ADs this program has had over the last 50 years or so.
Eddie Crowder - former head football coach. Notable football hires: Chuck Fairbanks & Bill McCartney. Biggest success: hiring McCartney (although looking back, it would appear that was pure luck, but give credit where due). Biggest failure: slashing AD and eliminating several varsity sports (baseball, wrestling and swimming among them). The CU AD has never managed to recover from this. Overall grade “D”.
Bill Marolt - former head ski coach & director of US Ski team. Notable football hires: Rick Neuhisel. Biggest success: extension for McCartney, construction of Dal Ward. Biggest failure: basketball was completely ignored and might as well not have even been a varsity sport while Marolt was AD. Also wasn’t able to leverage the success under McCartney into any kind of long term sustainable program. Overall grade “B+”
Dick Tharp - former University counsel, long time supporter. Notable football hire: Gary Barnett. Biggest success: no clue. Renovation of Potts Field (maybe?). Biggest failure: turtled during “scandal” and allowed the department to be castrated. Probably not his fault, but he did nothing to help the situation, either. Totally ghosted at a time when leadership was required. Overall grade “F”
Mike Bohn: former KU quarterback. Boulder native, but no direct connections to CU. Notable football hires: Dan Hawkins, Jon Embree. Major successes: hiring Tad Boyle, resurgence of hoops program, increased student involvement, move to PAC 12. Major failures: see football hires above, inability to raise funds necessary for IPF/Champions Center. Overall grade “C+”
Rick George - former recruiting director under Bill McCartney, president of Texas Rangers baseball club. Notable football hires: Mel Tucker, Karl Dorrell. Major successes: construction of IPF/Champions Center, solid fundraising, booster/alumni relations. Major failure: contract negotiations, panic hiring of Dorrell, regression of student involvement. Overall grade “C+”
So each has had some good and some bad. If we could get the perfect AD, he’d hire like Crowder, retain and support like Marolt, engage and stabilize like Bohn, and fundraise like George.
So, who fits that description?
Eddie Crowder - former head football coach. Notable football hires: Chuck Fairbanks & Bill McCartney. Biggest success: hiring McCartney (although looking back, it would appear that was pure luck, but give credit where due). Biggest failure: slashing AD and eliminating several varsity sports (baseball, wrestling and swimming among them). The CU AD has never managed to recover from this. Overall grade “D”.
Bill Marolt - former head ski coach & director of US Ski team. Notable football hires: Rick Neuhisel. Biggest success: extension for McCartney, construction of Dal Ward. Biggest failure: basketball was completely ignored and might as well not have even been a varsity sport while Marolt was AD. Also wasn’t able to leverage the success under McCartney into any kind of long term sustainable program. Overall grade “B+”
Dick Tharp - former University counsel, long time supporter. Notable football hire: Gary Barnett. Biggest success: no clue. Renovation of Potts Field (maybe?). Biggest failure: turtled during “scandal” and allowed the department to be castrated. Probably not his fault, but he did nothing to help the situation, either. Totally ghosted at a time when leadership was required. Overall grade “F”
Mike Bohn: former KU quarterback. Boulder native, but no direct connections to CU. Notable football hires: Dan Hawkins, Jon Embree. Major successes: hiring Tad Boyle, resurgence of hoops program, increased student involvement, move to PAC 12. Major failures: see football hires above, inability to raise funds necessary for IPF/Champions Center. Overall grade “C+”
Rick George - former recruiting director under Bill McCartney, president of Texas Rangers baseball club. Notable football hires: Mel Tucker, Karl Dorrell. Major successes: construction of IPF/Champions Center, solid fundraising, booster/alumni relations. Major failure: contract negotiations, panic hiring of Dorrell, regression of student involvement. Overall grade “C+”
So each has had some good and some bad. If we could get the perfect AD, he’d hire like Crowder, retain and support like Marolt, engage and stabilize like Bohn, and fundraise like George.
So, who fits that description?
I don't think it's a one person job any more.
I think you need the CEO & President type up top who does the fundraising, booster & business relations, budget & contract, and overall strategic vision.
Then you hire a former coach to manage the "competitive operations" to manage the coaches.
P.S. and with the money being paid to coaches these days, I could justify spending $3-5 million a year in order to fill these jobs.
Is there a school using that model?
Bliff Cranch
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Hard to disagree with this but do you then have to hire a football operations person as well as a basketball operations person? What about other varsity sports? I could see the ops role rubbing some, possibly many, coaches the wrong way (i.e backseat driver).
Not that I know of.
But most schools have a Board of Trustees that ensure support from boosters, alumni, businesses, legislators and the university at large. Since CU doesn't have that, the AD job is a big ask for any one person.
No. One person, all sports. Frankly, it's what the AD job mostly was before cable tv & the internet. But now the business side is the more important role.
Bliff Cranch
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I just think you’d have to be careful filling that ops role.
Sounds about right
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Colorado: Nerds. Not sure what’s inside, but it isn’t good.
Pac-12 teams as Halloween candy: Our fun, their expense
What candy is emblematic of your favorite team? The Hotline matched the treats to the teams as Halloween approaches.
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Colorado: Nerds. Not sure what’s inside, but it isn’t good.
I would have gone with Snickers, because I'm pretty sure everyone is laughing at us.Sounds about right
Pac-12 teams as Halloween candy: Our fun, their expense
What candy is emblematic of your favorite team? The Hotline matched the treats to the teams as Halloween approaches.
Colorado: Nerds. Not sure what’s inside, but it isn’t good.
This.
when I was on campus and later in the press it was widely rumored that McCartney chaffed under Judith Albino who kept trying to cut his assistant coaching pool money. She probably precipitated his retirement. She was also apparently a driver in the Neuheisel hiring for cost reasons as Bob Simmons was making a lot more. Marolt retired shortly after. She made a lot of enemies and was driven out as President a couple years later.
For all the grief Betsy Hoffman gets she probably gave the CU AD the most latitude which allowed Tharp to first try and hire Gary Kubiak and then settle on Gary Barnett. Both were higher profile and expensive candidates than any since.
Bill Marolt or Dick Tharp hired Ricardo Patton. Patton started to turn around CU Mens BB before Tad arrived by recruiting Chauncy Billups.
Dirk Tharp built the East stadium expansion. And I believe the desperately needed Basketball and Volleyball practice facility and offices at the Events Center (might have been Bohn).
Crowder was forced to cut those sports following Congress passage of Title IX. Many schools went thru that as well. The McCartney hire might have been part Gordon Gee. Crowder Also hired Ceal Barry.
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Is he bielemic?
*two
Damn!
Dude is just trolling everyone, including one of his biggest boosters
SerenityBuff
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Can't wait for RG to post all his shoes on Facebook when he finally gets fired
SeanMSan
Well-Known Member
Elementary school kids are going to have some nice sneakers…
Lol looks like it was deleted.
A picture of Rick George’s shoes saying “Heading to Autzen” (or something)
Don't worry