You want stability more than championships. Gimme championships.
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Chip Long - OC Notre Dame
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You worry about who the next coach will be when we need the next coach - hire the best guy you can get, period even if it means they may leave you at some point.
You're putting words in my mouth. I literally said I would like to have stability and win championships. But to your point, yeah, maybe I'd rather be in position to win conference championships every year for the next 20 years than to make the playoffs the next two years and be in the same position we're in now in year five, after our next coach bails before year three.
I guess the question is would you rather **** a 6/10 for 20 years or a 10/10 once? And honestly, I'd probably rather **** the the 10/10 once. So maybe you're right.
the question is more: do you want to marry some whatever chick for stability or do you want to hook up with some 10/10 who just wants a **** buddy
Definitely the 10/10 - no question.
BlackNGold
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If you are successful, well-heeled programs are going to come knocking at your door. SMU made a big Money push for McCartney after the death penalty and he had accepted the job but backed out at the last minute. I would love to have that type of success where people want your HC.
The logic that we don't want someone who will be successful because someone will take them escapes me. Then we should of kept MacIntyre.
Why are you putting that link in every one of your posts?
Coaches who are 10's are naturally gifted and put passion and effort into what they're doing. I'll take a 10 coach and an 8 when it comes to women, thanks.
You are all correct. There's not a single person on this site that wouldn't take a coach with enough success at CU to get poached from another, more traditionally successful, program. But is it too much to ask for a coach that's successful and wants to stay? I guess I'm just depressed at the situation. When I was growing up, CU was the destination. Now it feels like a stepping stone job, and that fact just bums me out. I blame Rick Neuheisel (or I guess Dick Tharp for hiring that clown).
You are desirous of a unicorn. We all are. It's just that none of us think unicorns are real. I am suggesting you watch this, and apply it to our situation:
The unicorn scenario would have been if Chev turned out to be the real deal and offensive savant we all hoped he could be.
Here's the thing -- if we hire the right guy and he has a ton of success, CU is the type of place that can make it so that he doesn't want to leave unless it's one of those small handful of offers that any coach would jump for.
we support winners, even ones that are controversial. Win here, and you can win national championships while your family grows up in one of the best cities in America. Everything is now in place. No short cuts necessary.
I absolutely believe CU can be a destination rather than a stepping stone. We don't have the donor base at this point, but a few top 20 seasons mixed in with a conference championship and NYD bowls will loosen up some pocketbooks.
It's never going to be a destination like USC, Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama, Florida, Florida State, Texas, OU, etc. but I do believe it can be in that next tier of "destinations".
How did CU look to the coaching market when Coach Mac left? I don't recall exactly what it looked like back then because I think we were pretty set on Neuheisel and there wasn't much of a search? Is that right? I would have thought that CU would have been in the discussion with those other programs back then. If so, I beg to differ.
Right. And you do see coaches who never want to leave once they get a good thing going. Ferentz at Iowa, Dantonio at Michigan State, Patterson at TCU.
CU has had 1 coach who chose to leave, right? And we were more than happy to replace him with Barnett.
I'm not sure, I was like 4 years old, but I also don't really look at anything relating to the college football landscape 30 years ago as remotely relevant to today. I think there are 8-10 jobs in college football that just about any coach in the country would jump another program for. Maybe 15 years from now, if CU has 3-4 Nattys, a new stadium, all the monies, and is paying a HC ~$10m/year, then we can be put in that tier.How did CU look to the coaching market when Coach Mac left? I don't recall exactly what it looked like back then because I think we were pretty set on Neuheisel and there wasn't much of a search? Is that right? I would have thought that CU would have been in the discussion with those other programs back then. If so, I beg to differ.
Do you think if Dantonio or Patterson were offered one of those 8-10 jobs, they would turn them down, though? Maybe they have been offered; I don't really know.
I remember Patterson was being targeted by all the big boys and he refused to leave TCU... and that was when they were still in the MWC. Dude had a vision for the place.
You're a pup!
Agree with ya.
Technically, Chuck Fairbanks left to go coach the USFL.
Really good recruiter everywhere he's been and made his name as an OC at Memphis where he didn't have any 5* athletes. Also, how many 5* athletes are on ND's roster these past two years?
Ian Book was a pretty run of the mill 3* if memory serves. He was one of those guys that was good, but not quite good enough for P12 offers. I think ND stole him from Boise or somewhere late in the process
Ripp
Woke bitch
For reference as a link back to the source. Why are you asking and why do you care?
Seemed excessive and like spamming.
Ripp
Woke bitch
I'm sure the mods will notify me if they have any issues.