^This. Bernardi was recruiting coordinator at UCLA. /discussion
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Chip Long - OC Notre Dame
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i like both candidates a lot. let's assume for a minute that these short lists are semi-correct. we are looking at whole bunch of really talented coaches. so, it comes down to stuff beyond the stats from their last jobs-- fit, culture, and the PLAN that they want to execute here-- what staff, how do they use our guys, etc.
and, lastly, and most importantly, the love we have for any particular candidate cannot be unrequited. maybe one or more of the potential short list doesn't want the job or doesn't want to do it the way rg wants it done, etc.
we're swimming in a deep pool here, apparently. we've got great options, supposedly. splitting hairs between long and another guy like that is a luxury for us.
and, lastly, and most importantly, the love we have for any particular candidate cannot be unrequited. maybe one or more of the potential short list doesn't want the job or doesn't want to do it the way rg wants it done, etc.
we're swimming in a deep pool here, apparently. we've got great options, supposedly. splitting hairs between long and another guy like that is a luxury for us.
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He’s an emerging young talent, but I think Colorado needs to go with a coach who has success at the head coaching level before.
Another factor is he won’t be available until late December because he will have to stay on as OC for Norte Dame. Valuable time lost with recruits.
Another factor is he won’t be available until late December because he will have to stay on as OC for Norte Dame. Valuable time lost with recruits.
Why would he be required to stay with Notre Dame if he takes a promotion to another school? Is there some sort of contractual item you’re aware of that others are not?
Head coaching experience is a requirement CU fans hold dear, for no real reason.
You are getting a little tedious with complaints. Even if Long did not leave ND early, there are worse things than getting free pub in a CFB playoff game because your next coach is coaching in that game.
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Not required to stay, but all OC / DC who have taken HC jobs have stayed. Even Lane Kiffin did before he was fired.
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Why wouldn’t you want a coach with previous HC experience. I don’t disagree a coach without HC experience can do it at this level, but when you’ve been one you have experience that comes with it. You don’t have to learn things because you’ve done it already or have prepared for how you’d better do things. Different when you haven’t seen it. Just my belief, though.
What happened at other programs is irrelevant. If he comes to CU early, great. If he doesn’t, free publicity. Win/win.
Because I do not believe it is a vital element to success.
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Free publicity is great, no doubt, but you’re losing valuable recruiting time that he has to spend coaching another team.
I’m not saying it’s a big deal at all, just something an AD will at least consider. You see it a lot in the NFL too. Teams don’t like to wait.
I guess your boy Schiano is disqualified then too since they’ve got a good shot to be in the playoffs.
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Again, not a disqualification. Being a head coach before you are more prepared and he would likely have a much more experienced staff than Long could put together.
Sadly, I don’t think OSU gets in. Don’t see Oklahoma losing unfortunately.
The OU-UT game will be close. The OU defense will ensure that. tOSU will roll this weekend.
So as it pertains to the CU job, besides Schiano, who would be your candidates with previous HC experience?
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Hope so man!
You need a coach capable of competing with UCLA, USC, etc. Obviously Holgersen, but don’t think that’s realistic. Wells at Utah State would be an interesting name as would Harsin at Boise State. Again, don’t think those are realistic names either as both are selective. Leavitt is another name who I think could maybe get it done, but I don’t think he can compete long term with the top of the division.
Zapata
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All Day Long, or just in the heat of the moment?
The list you’ve given are all in the no way category.
Real opinion but playing with the language to give myself a nerdy giggle. Rep to you for catching it and being nice about it. lol
Schiano to Buffs
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So who do you want?
Lupoi, Lake, or Long are the options that I believe make the most sense for what Colorado needs today.
The idea that Wells and Harsin aren’t realistic because THEY are too selective and wouldn’t jump to CU is laughable.
Schiano to Buffs
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I don’t know if Harsin would.
I agree. Harsin left for the Texas OC job and jumped back to Boise State quickly. I think he likes his life there.
Schiano to Buffs
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Agreed. Doesn’t seem like he’s one to jump just cause it’s a bigger job. Doesn’t seem like the place flr him. I like him, though.
FlatironsBuff
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Schiano was much higher on my list before you started harping and grandstanding for him. Now I’m kind of ‘meh’ for him.
FlatironsBuff
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And Day. Also Tucker. I’d say my list as of this minute is
Day
Lake
Tucker
Long
Lupoi.
Wells, no. What I’m hearing is U st fans want him gone so they can make the OC the HC. We don’t need Hawkins 2.0
All have stayed? Care to back that up?
Gerry DiNardo was hired away from the Buffs to LSU before we won the National Championship. The Orange Bowl was Gary Barnett's first game as Offensive Coordinator.
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Since the playoff system has started, all OC/DC’s who have gotten HC jobs have remained on staff until there season has concluded.