CanadianDuck
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Well Oregon will be given credit for taking down Arizona for the first time this year, but in my opinion this is their second loss of the year. Oh well I am very happy my Ducks won!
Well Oregon will be given credit for taking down Arizona for the first time this year, but in my opinion this is their second loss of the year. Oh well I am very happy my Ducks won!
As mentioned, Arizona fell to the Ducks in Eugene, 70-66. Most of us saw that coming given how Zona performed in Tucson last week. They're simply not the 4th team in the country -- there will be more Pac-12 losses to come for them.
UCLA scraped out a 57-53 win over Utah in SLC. UCLA is certainly beatable, but there's no denying Utah is improved, despite their 0-3 record in the Pac. Utah lost at ASU in OT, lost at Zona by 3, and now lost at home to UCLA by 4. Our trip to SLC is not the guaranteed win it was last year. Far from it.
Arizona State is currently up big on Oregon State in Corvallis. I've been negative on ASU all season, but if they hold on to win this, they'll be 14-2 (3-0). They've had an easy start to the Pac-12 schedule, but it's nearing the time to admit - grudgingly - that ASU might be a tad bit better than they've been given credit for. The good news is Oregon State is a road game that I like our chances in, especially because by March 9th I think our kids will have grown up quite a bit.
That's not your opinion, it's fact that it's their second loss. Good win for you guys, but Arizona isn't the 3rd best team in the country. They'll be picking up at least a few more losses in conference play.
That's not your opinion, it's fact that it's their second loss. Good win for you guys, but Arizona isn't the 3rd best team in the country. They'll be picking up at least a few more losses in conference play.
The way some of the posters talk about Arizona here, you would think that they're a bubble team. You guys do realize that Arizona is top 15 in offensive efficiency and 31st in defensive efficiency in the nation, right? And they're doing it with a frontcourt that's almost completely freshmen. Do I think they deserved to be #4 in the nation with teh way they've played so far this season? Not really, but they're clearly a top 10 team and with that youth and everything coming together, it wouldn't surprise me if they're a Final Four team.
I don't know if it's bitterness over last week or what, but the hyperbole from some posters has gotten ridiculous.
The way some of the posters talk about Arizona here, you would think that they're a bubble team. You guys do realize that Arizona is top 15 in offensive efficiency and 31st in defensive efficiency in the nation, right? And they're doing it with a frontcourt that's almost completely freshmen. Do I think they deserved to be #4 in the nation with teh way they've played so far this season? Not really, but they're clearly a top 10 team and with that youth and everything coming together, it wouldn't surprise me if they're a Final Four team.
I don't know if it's bitterness over last week or what, but the hyperbole from some posters has gotten ridiculous.
I'm not convinced they're top 10. Top 15, I'll take you on that. Their game vs CU, their 3 point home win over Utah, and a loss at Oregon (and how it was played). They aren't a top 10 team. Sorry, not buying it. Not sold on the almighty Sean Miller, outside of the recruiting realm, either. I'm going through my comments on this thread, and I've said absolutely nothing other than they're overrated at their current level and will still win the Pac-12, despite not being as good as their national ranking suggests. I'm confused where I'm so drastically wrong? And anyone knocking Mlller's game day coaching, at this point in his tenure, has a right to do so IMO.
Speaking of Arizona's talent, Angelo Choi is getting about 8 minutes a night and producing 2 pts / 2 rebs... and I'd sit with bigbang every game if that's what it took to get Choi on our roster.
I don't think your wrong not to buy 100% into them at all, the AP rankings mean nothing, they are based purely on observation and reputation. If you look at the stat guru's they have AZ in your range (KenPom at 15 and Sagarin at 11). They have had a lot go right to be where they are, but they also have a lot going for them that can't be underestimated as well. I think they are too deep and have too much talent not to make some noise this year. As goose stated, they are ridiculously efficient on offense and play good D. Personally I just don't see them folding down the stretch.