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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues

The Alabaster Yak said:
I’d like to know the percentage of Gen X and Millennials who identified as avid or casual sports fans when they were between the ages of 10-25. I assume Generation Alpha, being between 0-9 years old right now, also aren’t avid sports fans.
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I don't know, my 7 year old threw a massive fit this morning when I informed him I wasn't letting him stay up to watch the end of tonight's Nuggets game. The five year old joined him, but I think that's just because she's an anarchist at heart and not a sports fan.
 
ESPN and Fox have agreed to innovative in-game access with the Pac-12 to coaches during the game starting this fall. It is interesting that the networks are putting in the effort given that they are dumping the Pac-12 so fast and headed to Mexico with the B12 per the Endevour instructed crowd.

www.espn.com

Pac-12 to have added access to CFB broadcasts

The Pac-12 will provide enhanced in-game and pregame access during broadcasts of college football games this fall, including in-game head coach interviews and having select coaches and players wear mics during pregame activities.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
 
In the graphic that Miami posted, Esports is big with Gen Z and it's only 2% behind college football. Esports is basically watching other people play videogames and I do not think there is one gamer on this very board that is interested in Esports. I tried following that very briefly and decided that I would rather play the game than watch others play. That is something I don't think I will understand about Gen Z & Alpha as an avid gamer.

Having said that, I'm surprised Esports is just behind both levels of football and the NBA.
 
InTheBuff said:
Last time he spoke about the situation he lied saying ESPN wouldn't announce any tv deals due to 'optics.' I believe nothing that comes out of his mouth.
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Yeah, that’s what university presidents do. Lie to the media about tv deals. They also make up details about bidders then get in front of a camera and see who will believe them. No different than a Twitter troll account. Nailed it.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
What happens if the ACC dissolves and ESPN no longer has that exclusive content?
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#1 pick said:
Reddit already killed off the PAC in their minds and doing the same to the ACC. I honestly think the ACC is very vulnerable. All it takes is one of the 7 to add an 8th team and that kills off the ACC. It will be interesting to see what ND does too.
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If the 8 teams do decide to break off they would need a TV deal because it's highly doubtful that all 8 would find an immediate home in one of the other P5 conferences. They could go form their own conference and maybe get $5-$10 million more per school annually but with the proposed unequal revenue sharing being discussed, some of the schools wanting to leave will get that anyway under the proposed league venue model.

Bottom line, I think this new model will keep the ACC intact for now but as we know unequal revenue distribution is not a viable longterm solution. Plus some of these schools will eventually end up in the B1G or SEC anyway.

The 7 schools in question are Miami, FSU, Clemson, NC ST, UNC, UVA, and VT. The 8th school is reportedly Louisville.
 
disappointed the wire GIF
 
MiamiBuffs said:
McAfee is also apparently appealing to young people, a demographic that ESPN’s other content isnt. This is the demographic advertisers spend most of their money on. When you watch CNN you hear commercials about Camp Lejeunes Water and supplemental medicare insurance instead of insurance companies and banks.

morningconsult.com

The Sports Industry’s Gen Z Problem: Fewer Fans, Lower Viewership

An analysis of recent Morning Consult poll results found that Gen Zers currently between ages 13 and 23 are less likely than the general population to identify as sports fans.
morningconsult.com

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Dude. Ain’t no 21% of anybody who would admit to being an avid or casual fan of the WNBA.
 
Big Jim said:
B12 wants to add UConn and Gonzaga. Arizona fans are all in on joining the B12. It is very clear that Yormark has decided to drive the B12 into being primarily a basketball conference.

theathletic.com

Realignment rumors: ACC meetings, UConn on Big 12 radar, Pac-12 update

Why the Pac-12 remains in a holding pattern, a window into the Big 12's eye on UConn and where the ACC stands after a buzzy few days.
theathletic.com theathletic.com
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Exactly. It’s a bball conference. There’s not a single football program worthy of top billing. Even this year we got TCU on the Big Noon game on Sept 2, they couldn’t do that themselves. That’s what happens when a conference is full of 2nd tier Texas teams + a Kansas duo.

I would not be surprised to see them stall out at $31M or even go down in the future. Their upcoming contract will prove out how little brand value their fb teams have.
 
Big Jim said:
B12 wants to add UConn and Gonzaga. Arizona fans are all in on joining the B12. It is very clear that Yormark has decided to drive the B12 into being primarily a basketball conference.

theathletic.com

Realignment rumors: ACC meetings, UConn on Big 12 radar, Pac-12 update

Why the Pac-12 remains in a holding pattern, a window into the Big 12's eye on UConn and where the ACC stands after a buzzy few days.
theathletic.com theathletic.com
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I heard that next tv deal for the BIG12 Yormark may sign a basketball only deal separate to the football one. Curious if that ends up being a smart move.
 
InTheBuff said:
I heard that next tv deal for the BIG12 Yormark may sign a basketball only deal separate to the football one. Curious if that ends up being a smart move.
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I think that's long overdue. Are you going to care if CU is in the same conference as CSU for the olympic sports but not for football & basketball?
 
I'm going to rehash the ESPN direct to consumer stuff. There is a new article out and it provides some important details.

MSN

www.msn.com

As it stands, ESPN is an essential service for cable and satellite TV providers. ESPN gets an average of $9.42 from the average cable bill. Other networks? They average less than 50 cents.
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That could be a huge hit to cable companies but ESPN will continue to be offered on cable companies thanks to the recent contracts with ISPs over the last few years.

According to The Wall Street Journal, Disney and ESPN have begun laying the groundwork to begin selling the premium sports network as a standalone, direct-to-consumer option. Yes, Disney has ESPN+, which has amassed more than 25 million subscribers, but it does not broadcast a live feed of the main ESPN network, which remains one of the biggest draws for almost anyone that still subscribes to a cable TV package. The plan even has an internal codename of "Flagship," suggesting its importance to the future of the company.

ESPN would continue to offer its channel through cable providers, but they have been negotiating contacts with carriers to allow for the streaming spin-off.
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Goose said:
I don't know, my 7 year old threw a massive fit this morning when I informed him I wasn't letting him stay up to watch the end of tonight's Nuggets game. The five year old joined him, but I think that's just because she's an anarchist at heart and not a sports fan.
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They would have loved the old tape delay nba playoff games. Imagine talking your mom into letting you stay up till 1 am to watch a basketball game when you’re nine.
 
Goose said:
I don't know, my 7 year old threw a massive fit this morning when I informed him I wasn't letting him stay up to watch the end of tonight's Nuggets game. The five year old joined him, but I think that's just because she's an anarchist at heart and not a sports fan.
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Come on man, let em stay up. ;)
 
My not too serious comment that we should go independent: CP is the hottest property in college football at this point. If we can somehow go 6 - 6 and go to a bowl, he will be as feature story all season. We need to max out on this value. The networks want access to CP:

www.espn.com

Pac-12 to have added access to CFB broadcasts

The Pac-12 will provide enhanced in-game and pregame access during broadcasts of college football games this fall, including in-game head coach interviews and having select coaches and players wear mics during pregame activities.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

so maybe this is a Pac 12 bargaining chip: increased access to CP.
 
Couple of places reporting NBC Universal is out now for PAC12 deal. Not surprising since they just spent 110 million for one NFL playoff game.
 
If we could pick, what’s the best nearest 5-pack of schools we should play on a yearly basis?

B1G:
Nebraska
Iowa
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Illinois

SEC:
Oklahoma
Texas
Texas A&M
Missouri
Arkansas

PAC:
Utah
Washington
Oregon
Arizona
ASU

Logistically we’re closest to the B1G, historically closer to the SEC and currently in the PAC.

They’re all solid and we fit everywhere but what’s the best fit?

I’d rank them as B1G, SEC then PAC.

Nebs every year would be fun and I could see a rivalry w/ Wisconsin and Iowa.

SEC has the nostalgia going for it. The Texas Oklahoma games always felt like big games.

If the PAC had more stability and money it would be fun to keep playing UO, UW and UU now that we’re back but everyone is looking for a way out.
 
Victory said:
If we could pick, what’s the best nearest 5-pack of schools we should play on a yearly basis?

B1G:
Nebraska
Iowa
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Illinois

SEC:
Oklahoma
Texas
Texas A&M
Missouri
Arkansas

PAC:
Utah
Washington
Oregon
Arizona
ASU

Logistically we’re closest to the B1G, historically closer to the SEC and currently in the PAC.

They’re all solid and we fit everywhere but what’s the best fit?

I’d rank them as B1G, SEC then PAC.

Nebs every year would be fun and I could see a rivalry w/ Wisconsin and Iowa.

SEC has the nostalgia going for it. The Texas Oklahoma games always felt like big games.

If the PAC had more stability and money it would be fun to keep playing UO, UW and UU now that we’re back but everyone is looking for a way out.
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B1G:
Nebraska
Iowa
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Illinois

Might need to add

Kansas
Kansas St
Iowa St
Arizona
BYU
 
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