The only real deadline is next summer.
That's it.
Anything else is made up posturing.
And, SDSU's exit fee is peanuts in comparison to getting the right deal - the number is trivial compared to the whole.
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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The only real deadline is next summer.
That's it.
Anything else is made up posturing.
And, SDSU's exit fee is peanuts in comparison to getting the right deal - the number is trivial compared to the whole.
Even if SDSU will have to cough up $51M to the MWC? That's $1M more than OU & UT did apiece to the Big 12 to join the SEC next year.
That means SDSU will join the Big 12 soon. It doesn't look good for the P12 in that case but what do the heck we know?
While I cannot confirm this, I’ve read that the increase after June 30th, only applies if they leave the following year (2024 in this case). If they announced on July 1, then SDSU could simply join in 2025 and pay the lower amount.
I do believe the June 30 date does apply some pressure, just not as much as you think.
I also believe rumors of a potential unraveling of the ACC creates both opportunities and threats for the PAC 12 members.
Mods: petition to give temp bans to anyone who shares this big XII shills tweets as any kind of authority.
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Since never. And there is zero reason for the remaining PAC schools to give them a penny more.
Starting to feel like the ACC is more likely to dissolve than the Pac 10 and sooner.
I could see a scenario where the SEC and B1G make offers to the 4-6 programs they might want, and the Big 12 offers some of the others and it quickly gets to the 8+ needed to dissolve.
I could see a scenario where the SEC and B1G make offers to the 4-6 programs they might want, and the Big 12 offers some of the others and it quickly gets to the 8+ needed to dissolve.
I've read that some PAC schools who aren't too happy are definitely keeping an eye on things,
These schools know it's not a matter of if but when that Oregon and Washington go BIG10.
Once the ACC blows up all hell breaks loose. Some go to the BIG10, some to the SEC leaving the remaining ACC to scramble to BIG12 (Pitt, VA Tech,
Louisville, NC St most likely)
These PAC schools don't want the BIG12 to take more old ACC schools (Wake, Syracuse, Boston College for example) instead of them.
Could these PAC schools jump first knowing that they would at least be in the 3rd 'best' conference and not relegated to going to the MWC or AAC?
Well.... Yormark seems to be very aggressive. A forward thinker.
Sure sounds like this 'new' conference would be a bigger BIG12.
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Exclusive: WSU President Kirk Schulz eyes Pac-12 media rights deal in 'next few weeks to a month'
'When it happens, folks, the dominoes are going to fall quickly.' In one-on-one with CF.C, WSU President also talks Pac-12 expansion and IPF
247sports.com
“Pac-12 media rights deal will be made "in the next few weeks to a month" followed quickly by the possibility of conference expansion. "When it happens, folks, the dominoes are going to fall quickly," said Schulz.
"We're continuing to have really good dialogue and discussion with several media bidders and media partners ..." said Schulz. "I know our fans are frustrated ... I ask everybody to be patient because we have more bidders coming to the table, more people interested as the time goes on, and the 10 schools are as unified as I've ever seen them.”
Is this guy bluffing? Doesn’t sound like it.
What happens if the ACC dissolves and ESPN no longer has that exclusive content?
Last time he spoke about the situation he lied saying ESPN wouldn't announce any tv deals due to 'optics.' I believe nothing that comes out of his mouth.Exclusive: WSU President Kirk Schulz eyes Pac-12 media rights deal in 'next few weeks to a month'
'When it happens, folks, the dominoes are going to fall quickly.' In one-on-one with CF.C, WSU President also talks Pac-12 expansion and IPF
“Pac-12 media rights deal will be made "in the next few weeks to a month" followed quickly by the possibility of conference expansion. "When it happens, folks, the dominoes are going to fall quickly," said Schulz.
"We're continuing to have really good dialogue and discussion with several media bidders and media partners ..." said Schulz. "I know our fans are frustrated ... I ask everybody to be patient because we have more bidders coming to the table, more people interested as the time goes on, and the 10 schools are as unified as I've ever seen them.”
Is this guy bluffing? Doesn’t sound like it.
I believe in that case, the ACC schools would be in breach of contract with ESPN
I was under the impression they just needed 8 teams to vote to dissolve and it was over with no real liability?
No liability to the conference.
But the ESPN contract is a separate entity and not public.
Dude- you keep saying that he was lying, using the Pat McAfee deal as proof but you're smart enough to understand the difference between a contract with McAfee (with a deal size that, conspicuously, neither ESPN nor McAfee has confirmed) and a potentially $1B rights deal with the Pac.
Additionally, there has been a ton of bad PR for ESPN for this announcement:
Deadspin | ESPN spent millions on Pat McAfee in the middle of company-wide layoffs
Deadspin | ESPN spent millions on Pat McAfee in the middle of company-wide layoffs
deadspin.com
Well that sure escalated with the news of the ACC's potential demise. That might explain why the Pac-12 rejected a long term contract with ESPN when Limo Larry was still the commissioner.
Unequal revenue sharing seems to always lead to instability within a conference so the ACC schools that are not that seven are doing the smart thing by not budging. Same thing with the PAC schools when it comes to UO & UW.
That new CFP format is having an impact on conference membership and it starts next year. The end of the athletic year that falls on June 30th is coming up and that usually is some kind of deadline to set conference membership rolls.
Hopefully CU finds a good chair before the music stops.
Unequal revenue sharing seems to always lead to instability within a conference so the ACC schools that are not that seven are doing the smart thing by not budging. Same thing with the PAC schools when it comes to UO & UW.
That new CFP format is having an impact on conference membership and it starts next year. The end of the athletic year that falls on June 30th is coming up and that usually is some kind of deadline to set conference membership rolls.
Hopefully CU finds a good chair before the music stops.
ESPN is in the business of making money and McAfee is good moneyDude- you keep saying that he was lying, using the Pat McAfee deal as proof but you're smart enough to understand the difference between a contract with McAfee (with a deal size that, conspicuously, neither ESPN nor McAfee has confirmed) and a potentially $1B rights deal with the Pac.
Additionally, there has been a ton of bad PR for ESPN for this announcement:
Deadspin | ESPN spent millions on Pat McAfee in the middle of company-wide layoffs
Deadspin | ESPN spent millions on Pat McAfee in the middle of company-wide layoffs
McAfee is also apparently appealing to young people, a demographic that ESPN’s other content isnt. This is the demographic advertisers spend most of their money on. When you watch CNN you hear commercials about Camp Lejeunes Water and supplemental medicare insurance instead of insurance companies and banks.
The Sports Industry’s Gen Z Problem: Fewer Fans, Lower Viewership
An analysis of recent Morning Consult poll results found that Gen Zers currently between ages 13 and 23 are less likely than the general population to identify as sports fans.
morningconsult.com
I’d like to know the percentage of Gen X and Millennials who identified as avid or casual sports fans when they were between the ages of 10-25. I assume Generation Alpha, being between 0-9 years old right now, also aren’t avid sports fans.McAfee is also apparently appealing to young people, a demographic that ESPN’s other content isnt. This is the demographic advertisers spend most of their money on. When you watch CNN you hear commercials about Camp Lejeunes Water and supplemental medicare insurance instead of insurance companies and banks.
The Sports Industry’s Gen Z Problem: Fewer Fans, Lower Viewership
An analysis of recent Morning Consult poll results found that Gen Zers currently between ages 13 and 23 are less likely than the general population to identify as sports fans.morningconsult.com
McAfee is also apparently appealing to young people, a demographic that ESPN’s other content isnt. This is the demographic advertisers spend most of their money on. When you watch CNN you hear commercials about Camp Lejeunes Water and supplemental medicare insurance instead of insurance companies and banks.
The Sports Industry’s Gen Z Problem: Fewer Fans, Lower Viewership
An analysis of recent Morning Consult poll results found that Gen Zers currently between ages 13 and 23 are less likely than the general population to identify as sports fans.morningconsult.com
I'd like to see where European football leagues fall on this graph.