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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues



Podcast goes over portions of Wilner's latest article- Comcast overpayment is now than MORE than $70 million !!

What a mess the PAC is in. Shouldn't be surprised that Colorado is looking to get the hell out.
 
I intend to enjoy the next 3-5 years. After that, I doubt I will be watching the NFLite product CFB will be by then.

I'm about done with big time college sports in general but I'm going to enjoy following Oklahoma in the SEC for at least a couple years in addition to CU wherever they end up at. That is another reason why I have dipped my toes into the G5, FCS, and D2 waters the last couple of years.
 
Once again, I truly believe that the PAC has the better roster of schools, footprint, demographics and academics over the Big 12. Nevertheless, management matters, and the PAC ranks right up there with one of the worst managed organizations I’ve seen.

My hope is that one day Larry Scott faces criminal charges for accounting fraud.
 
Once again, I truly believe that the PAC has the better roster of schools, footprint, demographics and academics over the Big 12. Nevertheless, management matters, and the PAC ranks right up there with one of the worst managed organizations I’ve seen.

My hope is that one day Larry Scott faces criminal charges for accounting fraud.
Agree. After looking at the WSU forecast it’s clear how mismanaged it is. Reduced distributions ($7M) due to Comcast and the HQ move in 23-24. It’s not acceptable. Blame also goes to Kliavkoff for not being aggressive and expanding when the opportunity came about.
 
Those WSU budget numbers are pure fantasyland. Even if no additional schools left USC and UCLA already did so those would have to be going down and not up. (Though I guess to be fair the B12 is still going up without the OU traitors and Texas ****heads.
 
Those WSU budget numbers are pure fantasyland. Even if no additional schools left USC and UCLA already did so those would have to be going down and not up. (Though I guess to be fair the B12 is still going up without the OU traitors and Texas ****heads.
That’s where CU doesn’t fit in with the B12. We’re not jaded by Texas or Oklahoma. It gets annoying to hear about how much the B12 left overs obsess about them.
 
Got it. That’s what I thought. 😂 The difference is I’m not claiming to be right but I’m applying a calculation based on a published forecast and known distributions. OTOH you’re talking out of your a** propping up the B12. There’s a difference. I need to see the math. The standard is the standard.

I already have been through this ride with the Big 12 to Pac-10 move back in 2010 like the others so I have a good idea of how things were going to pan out. A week or two back, I did mention June 9 or June 16 as potential dates that CU could announce the BIg 12 move. Boom there's the BOR meeting this Friday which is a public vote and the B12 to P10 vote was also public back in 2010. Too many parallels between that move and this upcoming move to believe otherwise.

Hope you have been taking notes since they could be useful for when CU moves to either the B1G or SEC in the future.
 
That’s where CU doesn’t fit in with the B12. We’re not jaded by Texas or Oklahoma. It gets annoying to hear about how much the B12 left overs obsess about them.

It might be because you don't know how popular Boulder was a destination for opposing Big 12 schools back then.
 
Once again, I truly believe that the PAC has the better roster of schools, footprint, demographics and academics over the Big 12. Nevertheless, management matters, and the PAC ranks right up there with one of the worst managed organizations I’ve seen.

My hope is that one day Larry Scott faces criminal charges for accounting fraud.
The mighty PAC has struck out.
PAC should have gone hard after a combo of Okie St, Kansas, Texas Tech, BYU, Houston but instead sat on their hands pretending nothing was wrong.
The snobbery and elitist attitudes from the various presidents can't be ignored.
 
That’s where CU doesn’t fit in with the B12. We’re not jaded by Texas or Oklahoma. It gets annoying to hear about how much the B12 left overs obsess about them.
Just consider them jilted girlfriends and move on....it will be pretty easy to do when CP is running it up on them.
 
It might be because you don't know how popular Boulder was a destination for opposing Big 12 schools back then.
I guarantee we are going to see lots of out of state fans coming to Boulder. BYU, KSU, Kansas, Baylor- Boulder
is THE destination.
 
😂 ok my first year was the first year of the B12 but go on.

Started in the Big 8 myself at the best possible time for CU. If the other 4C schools follow CU to the Big 12, that might bring back some of those Big 8 vibes along with the Big 8 holdovers such as KU, KSU, ISU, and OSU. I consider TT as the 9th Big 8 member in that case too so a conference that has UA, ASU, Utah, BYU, CU, TT, KU, KSU, OSU, and ISU would be a solid nucleus.
 


No idea if there is any truth in this. I also don’t sub to this, so take it for what it’s worth.


Looks like GK is checking to see which schools are staying before extending invites for expansion and then getting the media rights finalized. It appears that CSU might take CU's place in the P12.

Stuff is getting real this week.
 
I guarantee we are going to see lots of out of state fans coming to Boulder. BYU, KSU, Kansas, Baylor- Boulder
is THE destination.

Yep. One of the key reasons the move to the B12 is bad for CU. Boulder will be overrun with orange polyester pants...and that is the best of what is to come.
 
Yep. One of the key reasons the move to the B12 is bad for CU. Boulder will be overrun with orange polyester pants...and that is the best of what is to come.

I would think that CU would be able to charge extra for visiting fans in that case...can't be bad for the bottom line.

At least there will be increased diversity in Boulder on select days.
 
Folks are saying "merit based" revenue split. If the money is already low and CU was looking at being on the short end off the stick on revenue split I could see that as the determining factor. I really hope we're not agreeing to that 99 year GoR though, at least for this first contract. Pretty sure the BIG deal is up again before the Big 12's deal expires.

If we go B12 it kind of does feel like we've accepted we've already been relegated. Likely we were told we weren't very high on the B1G's priority list.
 


No idea if there is any truth in this. I also don’t sub to this, so take it for what it’s worth.

It's true and has been for weeks. The problem is that this verbal agreement getting inked is contingent on the media deal and distributions. With the news that the overpayment monies owed back being much more than initially reported, it's now going to be even harder to get to the number.
 
It's true and has been for weeks. The problem is that this verbal agreement getting inked is contingent on the media deal and distributions. With the news that the overpayment monies owed back being much more than initially reported, it's now going to be even harder to get to the number.
Agreed. I preferred staying in the pac, but as others have said the mismanagement has been extraordinarily.
 
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