Victory
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The issue is the math was done by a TTU grad. That’s why it doesn’t add up.
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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WA also doesn't have state income tax. If you can plan shopping to get around their egregious sales taxes (liquor is ridiculous, for example), the cost of living is very manageable. Housing in the nice suburbs near Seattle is a bit pricier that Boulder County and traffic limits how far you can go out and still have a livable commute, but overall I found overall COL to be very similar to living in incorporated Boulder.
Big Jim
WTF?
I've been following houses on Zillow in Boulder for a couple of years now and the $/sqft is not nearly as high in Boulder than the Bay Area unless your looking outside equivalent neighborhoods. Not even close.
Yeah, the bay area is absurd in house values. Boulder is high, but not absurd.
You’re but yeah
Victory
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Can confirm. The number of +$1M tear downs alone is crazy.
Victory
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He said Bay Area though. It’s not all equal. Depends on where in the area you look. The city is not the most expensive.
The median home prices are the same, but the median home is not.
Basically, the median home in Boulder is 4-5 bedrooms, 2-3 baths, 3,000+ sq ft, 2+ car garage, single family home.
The median home in the bay area is 2-3 bedrooms, 1-2 baths, 1,200 sq ft, no garage, row house.
Saying they're "comparable" is just not accurate.
I feel like it makes it look dirtier for some reason.
It makes no sense but when I look at it, I know exactly what you mean
What are the sizes and ages?
Here's some speculation on the long-term Pac plan from a UO fan community writer. Because, why not, it's as realistic as anything else.
Phase 1 - keep it together now and add SDSU + SMU
Phase 2 - in 2030, get UCLA back (possibly also USC)
Phase 3 - after securing LA, poach the B12 for KU plus 1 or both of OSU and TTU (depending on if USC rejoins) to make a Pac-16.
fishduck.com
Phase 1 - keep it together now and add SDSU + SMU
Phase 2 - in 2030, get UCLA back (possibly also USC)
Phase 3 - after securing LA, poach the B12 for KU plus 1 or both of OSU and TTU (depending on if USC rejoins) to make a Pac-16.
Could This Be the Pac-12’s Long-Term Plan? | FishDuck
With what feels like an imminent media deal coming, it seems there may be a plan to keep this historic conference together. Here is what George Kliavkoff’s plan...
fishduck.com
Totally different from what I heard:
1. Add SMU and SDSU until 2030
2. In 2030 jettison OSU and WSU, back fill with ND and Bama, then recapture UCLA and SC for a partial share;
3. Expand adding UGA and Michigan
4. This can all be accomplished on the pending media rights deal with the Discovery Channel
1. Add SMU and SDSU until 2030
2. In 2030 jettison OSU and WSU, back fill with ND and Bama, then recapture UCLA and SC for a partial share;
3. Expand adding UGA and Michigan
4. This can all be accomplished on the pending media rights deal with the Discovery Channel
USC and UCLA in B1G long term only makes sense if the end game is a B1G-SEC duopoly.Here's some speculation on the long-term Pac plan from a UO fan community writer. Because, why not, it's as realistic as anything else.
Phase 1 - keep it together now and add SDSU + SMU
Phase 2 - in 2030, get UCLA back (possibly also USC)
Phase 3 - after securing LA, poach the B12 for KU plus 1 or both of OSU and TTU (depending on if USC rejoins) to make a Pac-16.
Could This Be the Pac-12’s Long-Term Plan? | FishDuck
With what feels like an imminent media deal coming, it seems there may be a plan to keep this historic conference together. Here is what George Kliavkoff’s plan...
If a duopoly is the end-game, the P12 is done in 2030.
But, *IF* there is a college football future without a B1G-SEC duopoly, then the above seems a reasonable strategy.
Positioning the conference to have a reasonable future if the duopoly fails to materialize is the best strategy available right now - even if you realize that a duopoly kills it off.
Within that, CU needs to do the same: position itself to have a reasonable future whether the duopoly comes about or not. If it does come about: must secure invite/seat at the table, and if it doesn't, then do you want be long term associated with the Pac12 or truckstop 12?
Median prices are the accepted way to compare home prices. You can point out the fact that most homes in Boulder are larger, but that doesnt really mean much if that’s all that’s available. The price is what it is. That’s why they use the median as a means of comparison between markets. So yes, they are comparable.
Price /sf is the usual comparison. Check that out, then see if your theory works out.
Yeah. No. It’s not. At least not in the context of determining which community is more costly to live in. Which is what we were doing.
I don't think you are really grasping why, and in what contexts, "median" home prices are used and considered valid measurements and comparisons.
They are really valid for evaluating single time series data and comparisons between time series data.
They are somewhat useful for "cost of living" comparisons, but even within that context, a high quality analysis will consider what you get at the "median" price.
But, the headline writer at clickbaittimes, err, USAToday, will surmise that the surface level view you are undertaking is "good enough."
But the reality is that real people, in the real world, make employment/career decisions based on what they can afford at the salary offered in an area, and the very simple fact that you are very intent on ignoring is that the same money in Boulder will buy a *much* larger/nicer home than it will in the bay area. And real people a. notice that, and b. make decisions based on that.
Good comparisons of costs of living don't look at "median" home values, they look at the median "4 bedroom, 2 bath, single family home" that people think is appropriate for a family of 4. And in that comparison, SFO is a lot more expensive than Boulder.
Now we just need to figure out what pest control costs in Boulder and how that compares to other places.
And reasonable people consider both; whereas people who are not sure about how to evaluate things like this will pick one and ignore the other.
If you want to make the argument that you can buy more house for the same cost in Boulder, that’s fine. But that’s not what we are doing. We are comparing to cost of a home ownership in one area to that in another. By that measure, the two communities are comparable. It doesn’t really matter that the $1.4MM house in SF is 1,000 sf and the $1.5MM one in Boulder is 2,000 sf. That’s what is available in those communities and that’s the cost. The cost per square foot is a great way to compare quality and value, but when you’re comparing prices, those factors are irrelevant.
Median or mean pest control cost?
and, like EVERY SINGLE ISSUE with any complexity at all, comparing cost of living between areas takes more than a single number to really understand.
Victory
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Exactly. When someone can find me one 2/1 or 3/1 in Boulder that is listed for $1.5M then we can talk about them being comparable.
If you live in Boulder, trust me you don’t want them to be comparable.
No city should aspire to what’s happening out here.
I'm not sure
Got it. Quality and value are completely irrelevant to price.
On a completely different subject, are you looking to buy a car anytime soon? I've got one to sell at a great price.