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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues

and while i am on a roll, there is a reason all these californians are moving to places they can afford more house. boulder and a lot of "expensive" neighborhoods are a ****ing discount bargain comparatively.

boulder is very expensive by overalll colorado metrics... not aspen or telluride or whatever but high end. people who own good real estate in california could buy multiple nice houses in boulder, just for ****s and giggles.

but, carry on.
 
Liver said:
extremely wrong. if you sold your house in boulder, you and family are very unlikely to find ANYTHING you would live in in a COMPARABLE neighborhood in the sf area. full.stop.

you are blathering now, but i am here for it, as we wait to find out how ****ed we are on conferences.
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That is relevant. Boulder, like other well-to-do large towns and small cities, doesn't have a bad part of town anyone with options would avoid like the plague. It's hard to compare to a big city with that "scary neighborhood" dynamic. Much easier to compare to a Del Mar or Half Moon Bay.
 
Not Sure said:
We aren’t talking about finding something comparable.

Is this thing on?
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you would take one look at the neighborhood, the house, and the schools, and the amenities at the same price point of boulder and run away screaming in terror.

you used a ridiculous metric to make a dumb argument and i here to pile on.

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BerkeleyBuff said:
Not sure (ba dum tis) why you're sticking your head in the sand here. Price only matters in the context of what's being bought. A family that needs a 3 bedroom home needs a 3 bedroom home no matter what community they're in. People don't ask "what's the cost of owning a home," they ask "what's the cost of owning a home that meets my family's needs."
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Yeah. I mean, I'm willing to give single family vs row house. I'm willing to give garage vs street parking. I'm willing to give lot size, and even total square footage. All of that changes within a city and culture, whether you need a car to commute/live, etc, etc.

But... 3 bedrooms/1.5 baths is kinda the baseline for a small family, and 4/2 is the sweet spot.

So, what happens if you look at 3/1.5 in SFO vs Boulder? A quick look on zillow over the last 6 months shows the median 3/2 in SFO at $1.2MM and the median 3/2 in Boulder at a shade under $1MM. So a full 20% difference. The Boulder homes are larger, are single family, and may or may not have a garage.

But if you need 4 bedrooms, it goes to $1.5MM in Boulder and $2.2MM in SFO, which would indicate a 50% greater cost.

And that's the thing, if you need 4 bedrooms, you need 4 bedrooms. It doesn't matter if the "median home price" is the same between two places. What determines your housing cost isn't the "median home price," but rather the "median 4 bedroom house."
 
torero said:
I'm glad we're putting more dumb arguments in this thread. We should probably start putting all the puns and just about every Mtn post in this thread just to be safe.
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puns are a bridge too far for the entire Junta.

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Darth Snow said:
disagree. This thread deserves puns.
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self loathing is a bad look!

it is always better to hate others more than one hates oneself. inviting puns into a thread already disgraced by the universe is asking for karmic trouble.

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Big Jim said:
Del Mar is where senior citizens' parents live.
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You're thinking of Sarasota. 😁

But anywhere with real estate values like Del Mar has a lot of people who bought in decades ago. With CA, you also have a lot of situations where the home is in a trust and people are living in their grandma's house that was purchased prior to the CA property tax freeze in the late 70s.
 
Buffnik said:
You're thinking of Sarasota. 😁

But anywhere with real estate values like Del Mar has a lot of people who bought in decades ago. With CA, you also have a lot of situations where the home is in a trust and people are living in their grandma's house that was purchased prior to the CA property tax freeze in the late 70s.
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Are the prices at The Villages comparable?
 
skibum said:
I don't think you are really grasping why, and in what contexts, "median" home prices are used and considered valid measurements and comparisons.

They are really valid for evaluating single time series data and comparisons between time series data.

They are somewhat useful for "cost of living" comparisons, but even within that context, a high quality analysis will consider what you get at the "median" price.

But, the headline writer at clickbaittimes, err, USAToday, will surmise that the surface level view you are undertaking is "good enough."

But the reality is that real people, in the real world, make employment/career decisions based on what they can afford at the salary offered in an area, and the very simple fact that you are very intent on ignoring is that the same money in Boulder will buy a *much* larger/nicer home than it will in the bay area. And real people a. notice that, and b. make decisions based on that.

Good comparisons of costs of living don't look at "median" home values, they look at the median "4 bedroom, 2 bath, single family home" that people think is appropriate for a family of 4. And in that comparison, SFO is a lot more expensive than Boulder.
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I live 20 minutes from Boulder and spend a lot of time there. Since my daughter goes to UW I also spend a lot of time in Seattle. Everything AFTER housing seems 10-20% more expensive in Seattle. Meals. Gas. Groceries. Housing prices are comparable to Boulders. In some ways higher. In some ways lower because there are actually some bad neighborhoods in Seattle that are affordable and you can help gentrify.
 
Why don’t we have flying cars like on The Jetsons? And capsules that turn into burritos instantly? And robot football?

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UConn and UCF have this little rivalry. One UCF fan is interested in making us their rivals.

 
skibum said:
Yeah. I mean, I'm willing to give single family vs row house. I'm willing to give garage vs street parking. I'm willing to give lot size, and even total square footage. All of that changes within a city and culture, whether you need a car to commute/live, etc, etc.

But... 3 bedrooms/1.5 baths is kinda the baseline for a small family, and 4/2 is the sweet spot.

So, what happens if you look at 3/1.5 in SFO vs Boulder? A quick look on zillow over the last 6 months shows the median 3/2 in SFO at $1.2MM and the median 3/2 in Boulder at a shade under $1MM. So a full 20% difference. The Boulder homes are larger, are single family, and may or may not have a garage.

But if you need 4 bedrooms, it goes to $1.5MM in Boulder and $2.2MM in SFO, which would indicate a 50% greater cost.

And that's the thing, if you need 4 bedrooms, you need 4 bedrooms. It doesn't matter if the "median home price" is the same between two places. What determines your housing cost isn't the "median home price," but rather the "median 4 bedroom house."
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But what if you put in bunk beds
 
Tony G. said:
But what if you put in bunk beds
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Entirely possible, and a choice lots of people used to make. We (big cultural "we" here) don't generally view that as an acceptable long term solution anymore.

Note: I am only observing the way it is in the US right now; I am not passing judgment on whether that is good/bad/indifferent and/or if we should/should not return to past practices.
 
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