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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues

Would suck to take that job, then have the PAC12 dissolve a month later
The Pac12 isn’t going anywhere. If(When) UO,UW and the four corners schools leave, the remaining Pac12 schools will keep the conference alive and absorb whomever they want from the MWC (and/or other G5s). Until the various playoff and NCAA bylaws are revised, or there’s a complete schism into a Power 2, the Pac12 is still a Power 5 conference and gets the perks associated with that. By 2030, yes, it’s likely that the Pac12 will be relegated to G5 status, but until then, it still gets the playoff spot, it still gets to decide rule and regulation changes like a P5 school, etc…. It’s much more likely that the MWC dissolves and the members join the kneecapped Pac12.
 
The Pac12 isn’t going anywhere. If(When) UO,UW and the four corners schools leave, the remaining Pac12 schools will keep the conference alive and absorb whomever they want from the MWC (and/or other G5s). Until the various playoff and NCAA bylaws are revised, or there’s a complete schism into a Power 2, the Pac12 is still a Power 5 conference and gets the perks associated with that. By 2030, yes, it’s likely that the Pac12 will be relegated to G5 status, but until then, it still gets the playoff spot, it still gets to decide rule and regulation changes like a P5 school, etc…. It’s much more likely that the MWC dissolves and the members join the kneecapped Pac12.
So they are going to become the coastal version of the Big 12 and just like them strut around like they are somehow better for it?
 
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Is this what a meaty oaker is? Is that allowed in the Big12, or would I have switch to Schlitz and runza?
 
The Pac12 isn’t going anywhere. If(When) UO,UW and the four corners schools leave, the remaining Pac12 schools will keep the conference alive and absorb whomever they want from the MWC (and/or other G5s). Until the various playoff and NCAA bylaws are revised, or there’s a complete schism into a Power 2, the Pac12 is still a Power 5 conference and gets the perks associated with that. By 2030, yes, it’s likely that the Pac12 will be relegated to G5 status, but until then, it still gets the playoff spot, it still gets to decide rule and regulation changes like a P5 school, etc…. It’s much more likely that the MWC dissolves and the members join the kneecapped Pac12.
Um. That “path” sounds very much like the PAC12 IS going somewhere… very bad.
 
Um. That “path” sounds very much like the PAC12 IS going somewhere… very bad.
Haven’t heard anyone argue the Pac-12 is going to be ok long term.

I don’t think the Big 12, some of the P12 schools and more than half of the ACC are set up to succeed long term. There are only a few outcomes going forward:

-Join the B1G or SEC (full or <100% share)
-Consolidate the best of the rest
-B12, P12 and ACC stay as is and individually sink to the bottom
 
Haven’t heard anyone argue the Pac-12 is going to be ok long term.

I don’t think the Big 12, some of the P12 schools and more than half of the ACC are set up to succeed long term. There are only a few outcomes going forward:

-Join the B1G or SEC (full or <100% share)
-Consolidate the best of the rest
-B12, P12 and ACC stay as is and individually sink to the bottom
There is one outcome moving forward. There's one spot open for a "best of the rest" conference when this finally ends in 2033ish.

Odds are the league who survives isn't going to be this one.
 
A $37 million deal in the PAC with the addition of a couple of targeted expansion teams (SDSU and SMU) would be pretty ideal.
I think I'd prefer SDSU alone, but whatever brings the money. (Purely from a fan perspective, I'd enjoy adding Boise, but I'm sure they don't bring enough TV money).
 
I think I'd prefer SDSU alone, but whatever brings the money. (Purely from a fan perspective, I'd enjoy adding Boise, but I'm sure they don't bring enough TV money).
Fair enough. I can’t say that SMU moves the needle a whole bunch, but it is a toehold into Texas.

Honestly, poaching 2-4 members of the Big 12 teams when the option was there would’ve been the best, but we’ve beaten that horse to death.
 
Fair enough. I can’t say that SMU moves the needle a whole bunch, but it is a toehold into Texas.

Honestly, poaching 2-4 members of the Big 12 teams when the option was there would’ve been the best, but we’ve beaten that horse to death.
Yep. Current PAC with perhaps KU, OSU, TT, maybe BYU (look, they're a big fan base with a large stadium and a great rivalry with Utah) would have been fun. But oh well.
 
I think I'd prefer SDSU alone, but whatever brings the money. (Purely from a fan perspective, I'd enjoy adding Boise, but I'm sure they don't bring enough TV money).
For CU, connecting to our DFW alums & boosters (along with all the RG and CP relationships there) would be very positive. I'm in favor of SMU.

University in general will like it for student applications.
 
Funded the Champions Center out of primarily CA donors.
Maybe someone knows where to find it, but I've seen a year by year breakdown of our athletics donations, and if I remember right we got a little bump around the time we went to the PAC but it quickly came back down to about the same level as before. I'd be happy to be misremembering that.
 
Maybe. We said the same thing about connecting to all our California alumni and it didn't pay near the dividends we'd imagined it might.
Maybe someone knows where to find it, but I've seen a year by year breakdown of our athletics donations, and if I remember right we got a little bump around the time we went to the PAC but it quickly came back down to about the same level as before. I'd be happy to be misremembering that.


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I’m not saying it didn’t move the donation needle, but comparing the 2007-2011 period to the 2011-2015 period has a lot of economic noise. That first period was smack dab in the middle of the Great Recession. The second period was the early recovery, before the 2016-2022 boom.
 
I’m not saying it didn’t move the donation needle, but comparing the 2007-2011 period to the 2011-2015 period has a lot of economic noise. That first period was smack dab in the middle of the Great Recession. The second period was the early recovery, before the 2016-2022 boom.
So we’ll be just fine being back in the big 12?
 
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