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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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241Volcanos
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Why would Oregon or UW join Big12?
Because they aren't getting invited to the B1G or SEC at the moment?
If they can't get a B1G invite and the 4 MTZ programs are going to the Big 12, their options come down to 1) independence, 2) Big 12, or 3) MWC merger. Option 2 would look pretty good all of a sudden.
So they're not in the Pac 6 with their little brothers, Stanford, and Cal?
241Volcanos
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Are 4 MTZ teams better off in Big12 or leftover Pac (with UO and UW) plus SDSU and Boise? I prefer sticking with UW-UO.
I don’t think you get it. The Pac-12 (10) is not a good football brand. We need to get out pronto
241Volcanos
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It's a stable conference that is a clear #3 with good football programs. A Pac 10 situation would be a disaster.
241Volcanos
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ACC >B12. Clear distant #4 or 5.
Ngl, ASU, CU, and Utah all putting out their statements at the same time makes me think the deed is practically done and we’re out.
Have Mel and the 5000% committed recruits taught us nothing of Twitter endorsements?
Have Mel and the 5000% committed recruits taught us nothing of Twitter endorsements?
Thisuniversityisf’ed!
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Fluid situation. Still this was my vote for most likely outcome because I don’t trust this school to do anything right.
Ok, so you prefer to stay in a Pac 10 situation that UW and Oregon are both looking to leave at a moment's notice?
I'm heartened by the idea that we're in lockstep with UU. They have made mostly all the right moves since the 2000s. They've gotten ****ed too, but the Pac-12 was a move up for them, not a lateral move like it was for us.
I respectfully don't get the "stability in the big12" argument, if you rewind 12 months, they were having the same sky is falling attitude that the conference was toast. Then they added a couple G5 teams, and now all is well?
Thisuniversityisf’ed!
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I imagine Utah isn’t thrilled we still pull some weight.
We only stay in a conference (Pac-10, Big 12, whatever) with UO and UW if there's a big time GOR signed.
Thisuniversityisf’ed!
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I think the difference is most here believe Oregon and Washington will leave at a moments notice and nobody wants to get caught with their pants down. The B12 looked F’ed but i never felt they were going to die like the P12. I don’t LOVE the idea of going to the B12 because I think it’s also kind of a lame duck, admission of failure. But at least they play football in that conference in places that love football and it’s feels more natural than Stanford, cal, Oregon etc. I think nostalgia is helping most posters justify the idea.
I'm sure the Big 12 is looking back at last year and wishing the OU/UT defection had happened this year. They'd much rather be taking Pac-12 schools than G5 schools.
Medford M.
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Without Clemson, what has the ACC been in FOOTBALL the last decade?
No other sports matter in regards to this situation.
Clemson, FSU, Miami are the only brands that move the needle in that conference in football, and two have them have been mediocre to bad the last decade.
The Big 12 hasn't really got brand names with Texas and OU leaving, but there's several football programs there, with the new additions that have produced better than the ACC.
Oh please, oh please.
So it's better to join a conference with zero marquee programs, because at least we know they won't leave us?
Yeah, kind of. A lot has changed over the last 5 days. Less than a week ago, with USC and UCLA in the conference to go with Oregon, Washington and Utah, as nationally competitive programs, the conference was on good footing. It's now completely fallen apart and the future of CFB is as unknown as it's ever been.
The Big 12 currently consists of some really good football programs that are based in recruiting hotbeds, and they all take their football seriously. The Pac 12 is dying.
Medford M.
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They could have done a lot worse than grabbing semi perennial playoff threat, Cincy, huge market Houston, "recent national champs" UCF, and bigger brand than you realize BYU.
Definitely. Plus the ACC is a dead man walking. Whether it lasts til 2036 or not, they're gonna be destroyed too.
In some ways, it was best for the Big 12 to be the first to picked off, because they got some decent schools to take the places of the defectors. The Pac-12 isn't going to survive that because of geography, and the ACC refugees might find all the places taken.
Medford M.
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The Big XII is just generally good in all sports, they just take their football seriously, unlike much of the Pac. Which means, we're going to get our **** pushed in worse if we don't start taking it seriously.
Basketball will be fun though.
the Big 12 is a better football brand than the PAC-12