I think UNC is the prize of the ACC. UNC would be welcomed with open arms by either P2.
All reports and rumor for the last week are that FSU and Clemson aren't wanted by either (i.e. not "the prize").
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All reports and rumor for the last week are that FSU and Clemson aren't wanted by either (i.e. not "the prize").
I get that’s become the consensus speculation, but FSU and Clemson are the bigger brands and better programs. UNC gives the P2 access to NC and meets their accreditation requirements.
Yea it is kind of odd but if the SEC is looking to expand their footprint then the state of NC is the most logical choice by far. And for the B1G UNC meets their AAU requirements if that's truly a requirement for them.
A 2nd team to add doesn't seem so obvious though. UVA has the high academics but not the brand recognition that UNC has. I doubt the B1G would have any interest in VT but the SEC, maybe.
I suspect the question will be answered definitively within a year.
I don’t think an invitation to the P2 draws that conclusion
because you believe the SEC and the B1G are likely to pass on the 'prize' and invite less valuable schools? I'm not following where your reasoning is going here.
One day, nik will have pods. This is what I wish for you.
And against all odds UNLV will get a spot at the table because of the growing demographics of Las Vegas. And the prophecy will be fulfilled. And it will be glorious.
BlackNGold
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TBS is part of Warner-Discovery which is $35+ Billion in Debt with a market cap valuation of $24 Billion - definition of being bankrupt. They don't have a bunch of money to spend without assurances of profit. TBS/TNT are both linear programing entities and the linear business model is has been in steady decline for over a decade.
TBS has not lost the NBA, they have a right to match clause in their existing contract which some think they will invoke and the NBA will not honor the clause resulting in some litigation. Both sides are lawyering up for this eventuality.
Totally makes sense. The B1G getting Atlanta (GT) and Florida (TheU) would be huge in addition to UNC & UVA.
FSU is obviously not getting into the BIG without AAU accreditation and the SEC were taking shots at them yesterday. It seems like the P2 want nothing to do with FSU.
FSU wants out of the ACC like its the plague. They have been very clear with that stance and into a P2 conference
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I'm very confused as to the people who still are insistent that FSU will end up in a P2 conference. The news that the Big and the SEC don't want them isn't new - like at all. Neither conference thinks FSU (or Clemson) add value. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that they have done market share studies about this and are not talking out of their asses. The SEC thinks they have the state of Florida already covered with UF. The Big Ten has been very clear they are not interested in FSU and I'm sure they have their reasons. Same with Clemson. SEC has South Carolina covered with USC and the Big Ten has been clear about Clemson, too.
The talk about the Big Ten in re: the ACC has been pretty crystal for a long time, as well. They want UVa and UNC. You can question why all you want, but the talk has literally never wavered on this. We can all throw out reasons why we think that is weird or question their priorities, but just saying "FSU has better athletics than UVa and that's all that matters" doesn't change what has been pretty evident for a long time.
The talk about the Big Ten in re: the ACC has been pretty crystal for a long time, as well. They want UVa and UNC. You can question why all you want, but the talk has literally never wavered on this. We can all throw out reasons why we think that is weird or question their priorities, but just saying "FSU has better athletics than UVa and that's all that matters" doesn't change what has been pretty evident for a long time.
I'll believe Miami when I see it. This is the very first time I've seen them (or GT) mentioned as a serious Big Ten candidate.
I think there are different reasons for the P2 wanting to add programs at this time as I explained already. FSU and Clemson are the best football brands and programs in the ACC but they don’t meet what the P2 are currently looking to add
Well, with all those flaming spears they bandy about, I am not surprised.
BerkeleyBuff
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Really? I've seen that mentioned here and there for at least 4-5 years.
I've seen random posters say it, or in comments on Twitter or reddit, but I've not seen from anyone I would consider actually knowledgeable. I could be wrong though.
Something happened. It didn't used to be that way.
Maybe the boats & hos scandal broke them, but up until the late 1990's, whenever Miami wasn't on probation, I recall them out-recruiting the other Florida schools. Of course, they were on reduced scholarships more often than not back then.
It’s more an alumni/admin change. They want to be known more for their academic prestige than the u. Also driving an hour to your home games kills school spirit. UCF’s upswing correlates directly with their On-campus stadium.
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To me its the admins since Tad Foote retired which have been much more academic. Foote was essentially Gordon Gee for UM.
UM is a Smaller private school (12,500) that costs as much as Harvard doesnt help. Must student are from far away places. Most of the fans holding season tickets are locals with no affiliation
Losing the Orange Bowl and having to play at Joe Robbie is awful. I suspect when the new Soccer stadium is done that will be much closer and near the airport they might try to play there.
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I think attendance would increase if they were better again and they played in a better location.
What Miami does offer any conference is a large TV market