Even worse than there being 352 D1 basketball programs. They could easily cut that by a third, too.
I think a good playoff is having around the 20-30% best teams qualify.
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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I think a good playoff is having around the 20-30% best teams qualify.
And have 8 conferences of 8 teams seed a 16 team post season tournament.
The saving grace is that every basketball team gets a path to play in the tourney, and gettingv that miracle 15v2 upset is arguably as cool as a lower division title.
Well, if you do hear from him it will be a....miracle? Too soon?
I know a lot of people didn't like him but he definitely had his sources unlike that MHver3.
if the P2 broke off and formed their own league...
- refused to schedule non-conf games outside of the SEC or B1G
- had their own playoffs and refused to participate in a playoff including other conferences
- had the vast majority of projected high NFL draft picks
- cherry picked the best players from non-P2 schools every year in the portal
Yes, because the product on the field would be really good.
Only if CU was part of it, but it would slide down my hierarchy of preferred viewing.
Assuming neither league expanded to include CU, it would just be background noise in my house. I already have a professional football league and team I watch and if CU was removed from any association with that new P2 league, it would no longer be compelling for me.
I only watch other games that impact CU. Most years that’s none. This year there were some.
I never watch the playoff or bowl games unless CU is involved
I think a super league can do well short term, but doesn’t realize how significant the erosion in the tail of viewers would be in the long term.
If networks/schools don’t realize how significant the long tail is in CFB, they’ll be doomed in the long haul. NFL doesn’t have the long tail built into the system so they don’t have this issue. People making decisions only look at it on a quarterly and annual basis tho
I never watch the playoff or bowl games unless CU is involved
I think a super league can do well short term, but doesn’t realize how significant the erosion in the tail of viewers would be in the long term.
If networks/schools don’t realize how significant the long tail is in CFB, they’ll be doomed in the long haul. NFL doesn’t have the long tail built into the system so they don’t have this issue. People making decisions only look at it on a quarterly and annual basis tho
I guess I'll never find out why he blocked me. That's been the weirdest trip thing that's ever happened to me on social media.
Would only follow Texas
I'm pretty sure it was the unsolicited dick pix.
Which is why I don't think the networks want this, even if that's what Sankey and Pettiti (sp?) are eventually eyeing.
As a CU fan, I watched primarily Pac-12 games over the last decade. This year I watched primarily Big 12 games. I have not watched a single SEC game start to finish, and I could count on one hand the Big Ten games I did so for.
I would imagine most Big 12 and ACC fans are the same way. Now, are there more Big Ten and SEC fans than than other fans? Sure. Do the networks want to sacrifice that many college football fans though? Not a chance.
Also, there are a lot of dud matchups in the Big Ten and SEC. Think Purdue/Northwestern, Vanderbilt/Kentucky, Nebraska/anyone. Those games are dead weight to the conferences. The networks relegate those games to their conference networks while subbing premier Big 12 and ACC games on their main networks (ABC/CBS/Fox) or top cable networks (ESPN/FS1/etc). Again, the networks aren't going to want to sacrifice those.
No, not if CU weren't involved. We already have the NFL, we don't need a second version. For those of us who aren't NFL fans, the more CFB becomes NFL on Saturday, the less I will watch. (And yes, it is already headed that way, I know).
No. I firmly believe that would kill the golden goose.
Nope, it would hurt the product permanently, and the smart people know that.
The ultimate version that would absolutely maximize the pot for everyone is to create two distinct leagues with a similar structure
48-56 teams per league with 16 team playoffs that are very engaging to everyone.
What the B1G and SEC are doing is not helping the sport and it is on the tipping point of erosion
When the Buffs sucked, my attention was quickly moving completely to the Avs and Nuggets
I'm in the same boat as everyone who's already answered this question, and I so think such a move would largely regionalize the sport. Assuming that most folks feel the way that we do, it would mean that only the people who have a local-ish team to root for would still have interest.
The NFL is by far the most popular spectator sports league in North America, and I think part of that success is due to the fact that the whole country is involved. Only truly tiny population metro areas don't have a "local-ish" NFL team- the biggest is San Diego at #18, but they lost a team because of low local interest. The biggest metro that's never had an NFL team is San Antonio- which is #24 on the list.
Look at the SEC/B1G map- they'd be missing 9, 10, 13, 18, 19, and 20 before you get to #24, and that's if you make some stretches (i.e. saying that USC covers Charlotte, PSU covers Philadelphia, Maryland covers DC, Rutgers covers NYC, etc.)
Moreover, it's the distribution- you'd have 4 teams in Alabama and Mississippi, and only 1 each in the much bigger states nearby (Georgia and Florida), 3 teams in Indiana yet only one in Ohio, a team in SC yet none in the much bigger NC and Virginia, etc.
I agree with comments above that if the P2 did this it would likely kill the golden goose... Eventually. I also think the P2 would still do something similar, grabbing all the golden eggs they can until the goose dies.
I also think there are more people like Jens who'd watch than are posting. Especially those NFL fans that geek out on the draft. I don't think there'd be any notable drop-off in support from fans of SEC and B1G schools.
Tangent, RE: small markets with no NFL team, as a Green Bay fan I'm certainly experiencing bias, but I've met football fans from small towns or rural areas in maybe a dozen different states who adopted the Packers as their team. The national/global reach of the NFL allows for this -- I think it's possible, but maybe not probable, that a hypothetical P2 league could pull it off with the level of media support they already get.
I might be in the minority but on Tuesdays I watch MACtion and on Thursdays and Fridays I watch whatever game(s) are on. On Saturdays when CU is an away game or bye, I'm sat on the couch from 10:00 AM till the end of the last game of the day flipping between any games that are competitive and watching the entire CU game obviously. For home games, we tailgate with a tv hooked up to a generator if there are any games on while we're tailgating.
So long answer but yes, I would watch that because it would be an extremely fun product to watch. I'd also watch a majority of the games in the league CU is in if they AREN'T in that superleague but I believe CU would be included in the 64 super league.
I sometimes watch some MACtion if there is a 30% profit boost and I feel like risking $10 on two teams I know nothing about.
I’m not a betting guy, but in the extraordinarily rare event where I find myself home alone with no pressing work issues, chores, over due home improvement projects, or other obligations, I love turning on Wednesday ESPN and losing myself in a MAC game. I think that last happened like 4 years ago though.I sometimes watch some MACtion if there is a 30% profit boost and I feel like risking $10 on two teams I know nothing about.
I don't think those in charge have much interest in stabilising the sport and 3 major conferences. They want to cement the current duopoly.
Kansas would be in the 16 for sure.
Well the outsiders (ACC/Big12) leading schools would be the ones culling, combining, improving and stabilizing their own outlook if BIG/SEC remains static.
How about the networks? Best in mind they’re essentially married to the B1G/SEC at this point.