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Finally > Kliavkoff P12 gets it

But who in the Pac, including USC right now, has a rabid fan base? So even if USC is in the CFP next year, how will that grow more of a fan base for CU, or any of the other programs?

Fans in this conference are simply not as invested in CFB. It’s more of an afterthought.
This has always been the case, though, not something that just happened over the last decade. It's not a coincidence that the conference fell behind when USC took a dive (along with Larry Scott's terrible management). Pac 10/12 had the best media deal in the country during the early 2000s. And honestly, the tier 2 and tier 3 teams in the Pac 12 don't really matter in this discussion. The conference needs USC to be legit along with Oregon. Utah, Washington and UCLA would also really help, but the future of the conference is all about providing marquee games featuring USC and Oregon in various capacities.
 
But who in the Pac, including USC right now, has a rabid fan base? So even if USC is in the CFP next year, how will that grow more of a fan base for CU, or any of the other programs?

Fans in this conference are simply not as invested in CFB. It’s more of an afterthought.
P12 fans have never been as invested as SEC fans. I am not sure I follow.

While the P12 media deals may not be as lucrative, unless the fanbases fall off the face of the earth, they will always have a seat at the table.
 
P12 fans have never been as invested as SEC fans. I am not sure I follow.

While the P12 media deals may not be as lucrative, unless the fanbases fall off the face of the earth, they will always have a seat at the table.
A seat at the table, sure. I’m more replying to the complaints from many of “why are those conferences making so much?”, “we have to catch up to the SEC and B1G”, I’m expressing that I don’t think either of those things will ever happen and instead I see the gap widening in years to come.

The PAC-12 is the ritzy 10 table restaurant in SanFran that does a lot of things very well, but just isn’t setup to scale. The SEC is McDonald’s and I guess that would make the B1G a Cheesecake Factory. Our little restaurant gives us a sense of pride and we can hold up our noses at some of the trappings, but when the P&L sheets come out we’re getting smashed.
 

OSU wants to keep the money and have the flexibility to schedule SEC teams if it wants to. Although the scheduling alliance could work, and I think it would be great for CFB, the alliance is dead if OSU doesn't want it. I don't expect USC or ND want it, either.

CFB is in some real trouble. The sport has no leadership, so the rich will continue to get richer. They are going to kill interest in the sport outside of certain small pockets of the country. It's too bad to see it come to this.
 
OSU, USC and ND might not want it, because they don’t have a real financial incentive to do it, but they do have an incentive to protect the institution of college football. That might not make much of a difference, though. I’m hoping those schools can be a little more forward thinking.
 
Larry Scott's legacy was defined by that 13 year media rights deal and that is what put him out of a job

16 - For context, the ACC's contract with ESPN—a deal that began in 2019 to coincide with the birth of the ACC Network—pays $240 million a year and lasts until 2036. Aug 9, 2021
13 - Fox Sports Media Group has secured the exclusive cable broadcast rights to the Big 12Conference in a 13-year deal worth a reported US$1.2 billion
10 - The SEC and ESPN reached a new 10-year media rights agreement beginning in 2024-25. The agreement gives ESPN and ABC exclusive first-tier
6 - Big Ten. The league is in the middle of a six-year, $2.64 billion deal with Fox and ESPN that expires in 2023

The SEC and B1G go to redo their deals by expanding and TV agreed to grant additional rights. The BigXII tried to expand and their TV denied their request to grant additional rights.
 
16 - For context, the ACC's contract with ESPN—a deal that began in 2019 to coincide with the birth of the ACC Network—pays $240 million a year and lasts until 2036. Aug 9, 2021
13 - Fox Sports Media Group has secured the exclusive cable broadcast rights to the Big 12Conference in a 13-year deal worth a reported US$1.2 billion
10 - The SEC and ESPN reached a new 10-year media rights agreement beginning in 2024-25. The agreement gives ESPN and ABC exclusive first-tier
6 - Big Ten. The league is in the middle of a six-year, $2.64 billion deal with Fox and ESPN that expires in 2023

The SEC and B1G go to redo their deals by expanding and TV agreed to grant additional rights. The BigXII tried to expand and their TV denied their request to grant additional rights.
Long deals are done out of fear - lock things up and make it hard for members to leave while agreeing that the value of your product in a decade is the same as it is today. Bad business.
 
This is just dumb, I can't believe that tOSU would actually consider moving a CFP home game 3 hours away from campus

 
OSU, USC and ND might not want it, because they don’t have a real financial incentive to do it, but they do have an incentive to protect the institution of college football. That might not make much of a difference, though. I’m hoping those schools can be a little more forward thinking.
I hope so too. But I don't think they will. We have already seen that Bama, GA, TX, OU, TAMU, and other programs don't give a rip about protecting the institution of college football.
 
I'm wondering if George could convince the P-12 powers to play at least 1 OOC game between a SEC or B1G school to boost P 12 exposure? Then again, I realize getting the other conferences to go along with that would be a huge challenge.
 

$21Million PROFIT!! Jeez-ass
And that's how CU gets to the projects we need. This next round of P12 media deals decides our future.

All the more reason to make Dallas & Houston home footprint markets as well as inking scheduling alliances (FB, MBB & WBB) with other power conferences prior to negotiations. P12 has got to increase its value to broadcast companies. Hell, I'd even look to go to 16 teams to be able to offer 2 new semi-final conference FB championship games as part of the P12 package.
 
K has work to do. During the sports update before starting golf coverage, NBC showed highlights from the championship games for ACC, Bug East, Big12 and maybe others (I missed the start of the update). Then, as they are headed to golf, Jimmy Roberts says, “and in other news, 2nd ranked Arizona rolled over UCLA to claim the Pac-12 championship.” Embarrassing.
 
Oprah Winfrey Reaction GIF
 
“Big 10, you get a huge TV deal! And SEC, you get a huge TV deal! And ACC, you get a huge TV deal! And Pac 12, :ROFLMAO: !
 
Yeah. I know. I was taking a little creative license there. So just roll with it. Okay?
Even creative license wouldn’t allow me to include the Big 12! Or whatever that conference is now. :LOL:
 
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