Finally > Kliavkoff P12 gets it

[Creebuzz]

His fault for accepting the job.

I think no one is gonna argue that Kliavkoff wasn't dealt a bad hand to begin with, Nik and I both laid out the problems above, he a) had to change the P12 leadership's thinking and wake them up from the Larry Scott dreamland that all they had to do was keep the course and their patience would be rewarded while they were losing ground on their competitors every single day as the P12 was facing an existential threat if they waited any longer with the TV deals, b) keep programs that were shopping around in the fold by doing so and c) ideally try to poach from the Big 12 when it was very vulnerable after the OU/UT departures. He did none of that.

Yormark was dealt an even worse hand as his 2 premier programs had just jumped ship, but he did a) and that allowed him to do c) as the P12 was still daydreaming.

I think we are mincing words a bit, because I am not disagreeing with much of what you have written. Ultimately, Kliavkoff failed at his job. Period.

However, I actually believe there were elements of Yormark’s job that were easier (as @onealcd wrote above). The Big 12 was largely unified, even if that was borne out of having few options. PAC 12 was not, and a fractured Board of Directors (I.e. the presidents) is a disaster to work with.

In the end, we are discussing assignment of blame. I just happen to split it 75% presidents / 25% commissioner.

 

[Alfred91]

USC was definitely sword rattling and demanding more money. UCLA and others were very public about budget needs (which were exacerbated by the pandemic). But I don't believe there was a year of secret negotiations and a deal in place long before the announcement like we saw with OU/UT-SEC.

But USC was already searching for a way out, and expansion would have brought another round of signing GORs, and USC wouldn't have wanted to do it.

I really think blaming Kliavkoff for the collapse is letting the real perps, Larry Scott, Stanford, USC, and apparently some dumbass professor in Utah, off the hook.

 

[Jens1893]

I think we are mincing words a bit, because I am not disagreeing with much of what you have written. Ultimately, Kliavkoff failed at his job. Period.

However, I actually believe there were elements of Yormark’s job that were easier (as @onealcd wrote above). The Big 12 was largely unified, even if that was borne out of having few options. PAC 12 was not, and a fractured Board of Directors (I.e. the presidents) is a disaster to work with.

In the end, we are discussing assignment of blame. I just happen to split it 75% presidents / 25% commissioner.

That’s fair, yes. He was dealt a bad hand and did nothing to little to improve it.

 

[MiamiBuffs]

I actually believe there were elements of Yormark’s job that were easier (as @onealcd wrote above). The Big 12 was largely unified, even if that was borne out of having few options. PAC 12 was not, and a fractured Board of Directors (I.e. the presidents) is a disaster to work with.

In the end, we are discussing assignment of blame. I just happen to split it 75% presidents / 25% commissioner.

This.

That’s fair, yes. He was dealt a bad hand and did nothing to little to improve it.

12 separate companies with their own agendas is hard to improve. It wasnt a team.

 

[Agent Dave Kujan]

I would also add that the quality of football being played in the Pac 12 dropped off dramatically, in large part due to a lack of commitment by the university presidents.

Finally, in about 2022 the got their heads out of their as$es, the football improved, but it was too little too late.

 

[MiamiBuffs]

I would also add that the quality of football being played in the Pac 12 dropped off dramatically, in large part due to a lack of commitment by the university presidents.

Finally, in about 2022 the got their heads out of their as$es, the football improved, but it was too little too late.