It’s now called “Pac 12 in the Dark.”I hope this puts an end to the P12 after dark.
It’s now called “Pac 12 in the Dark.”I hope this puts an end to the P12 after dark.
Pac 12 after the shut off notice?It’s now called “Pac 12 in the Dark.”
From an entertainment value, it never surpassed Playboy After DarkIt’s now called “Pac 12 in the Dark.”
You think he knew ESPN could get shut out? Some intimated it previously. I thought no way.If B1G cuts out ABC/ESPN to partner with NBC & CBS for its "B" content, things get very interesting.
Would have to give K credit for being patient with a strategy of waiting until B1G is done instead of making panic moves. ABC/ESPN have much more money and need if this happens. And it would also mean that Amazon lost out & is out there as a strong "B" or "C" content bidder.
I think that when FOX bought that additional stake to get 60% of BTN and then secured the B1G's "A" content, the writing was on the wall.You think he knew ESPN could get shut out? Some intimated it previously. I thought no way.
I think that when FOX bought that additional stake to get 60% of BTN and then secured the B1G's "A" content, the writing was on the wall.
I think someone in the know could have made a reasonable prediction that FOX, controlling "A" & "C", would push hard for a non-ESPN deal on "B".
Further, if you were thinking those dominoes were likely... the next thought would be FOX having B1G (with USC/UCLA) & MWC leaves ESPN in serious need of western time zone & market content.
Good slow play by K.I think that when FOX bought that additional stake to get 60% of BTN and then secured the B1G's "A" content, the writing was on the wall.
I think someone in the know could have made a reasonable prediction that FOX, controlling "A" & "C", would push hard for a non-ESPN deal on "B".
Further, if you were thinking those dominoes were likely... the next thought would be FOX having B1G (with USC/UCLA) & MWC leaves ESPN in serious need of western time zone & market content.
Isn’t that the amount that ESPN outbid CBS for the SEC GOTW? CBS said that was too much and then jumped on the B1G GOTW?
Maybe everyone was misreading the "scheduling alignment" discussions between the B1G & PAC.I think that when FOX bought that additional stake to get 60% of BTN and then secured the B1G's "A" content, the writing was on the wall.
I think someone in the know could have made a reasonable prediction that FOX, controlling "A" & "C", would push hard for a non-ESPN deal on "B".
Further, if you were thinking those dominoes were likely... the next thought would be FOX having B1G (with USC/UCLA) & MWC leaves ESPN in serious need of western time zone & market content.
Yep. Doesn't really make any sense, but this would be a positive for the Pac 12Isn’t that the amount that ESPN outbid CBS for the SEC GOTW? CBS said that was too much and then jumped on the B1G GOTW?
ESPN pulled out as you likely saw today. Final offer was 380 for 7 years for 3:30 pm games, B1G second game.Yep. Doesn't really make any sense, but this would be a positive for the Pac 12
Wondering if Pac could get something in that range or even higher for Tier 1 content?ESPN pulled out as you likely saw today. Final offer was 380 for 7 years for 3:30 pm games, B1G second game.
If we're willing to make our 3 time slots of "A" games a commitment to a Thursday, Friday and Saturday late prime time ("Pac-12 After Dark"), we can probably get that or more. Then we still have our "B" & "C" for second tier networks and streaming.Wondering if Pac could get something in that range or even higher for Tier 1 content?
Define “late prime time”. Are we talking about 7:00 Mountain time? That I can live with. Make it any later than that and I get grumpy.If we're willing to make our 3 time slots of "A" games a commitment to a Thursday, Friday and Saturday late prime time ("Pac-12 After Dark"), we can probably get that or more. Then we still have our "B" & "C" for second tier networks and streaming.
For Mountain Time, kickoffs around probably 8:30 on Saturday and 7:30 on Thu & Fri.Define “late prime time”. Are we talking about 7:00 Mountain time? That I can live with. Make it any later than that and I get grumpy.
Disluke, but I’ll survive. It’s worse in November for those late games. If they can figure out a way to be relevant again, the kickoff time will be the least of my concerns. And if they don’t find a way back to relevance, I can always leave at halftime.For Mountain Time, kickoffs around probably 8:30 on Saturday and 7:30 on Thu & Fri.
If the 1:30 MDT B1G B package was 380, what’s this?For Mountain Time, kickoffs around probably 8:30 on Saturday and 7:30 on Thu & Fri.
Hopefully in a range of B1G/SEC money that gives us a puncher's chance like small market pro baseball teams that deal with significant disadvantages but can still win the championship sometimes.If the 1:30 MDT B1G B package was 380, what’s this?
ESPN takes some of the B/C content. Ideally, its the C. I'd rather deal with them than some new player after the disaster that the P12N was. Wilner was on an Iowa State podcast and he mentioned Turner as a player for the Pac. Might work for like B games.If we're willing to make our 3 time slots of "A" games a commitment to a Thursday, Friday and Saturday late prime time ("Pac-12 After Dark"), we can probably get that or more. Then we still have our "B" & "C" for second tier networks and streaming.
Turner does a great job with NBA and the Dance. Makes sense. They could get in the football business while getting a lot of quality hoops content which would probably include a "Game of the Week" for CBS. Football is certainly king, but it's valuable basketball property for this buyer, too.ESPN takes some of the B/C content. Ideally, its the C. I'd rather deal with them than some new player after the disaster that the P12N was. Wilner was on an Iowa State podcast and he mentioned Turner as a player for the Pac. Might work for like B games.
Yeah, I think locking down those late-night slots on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday makes sense. It's not like the Pac has a lot of wiggle room here. However, if that is the case and you can get around that $40 mil for tier 1 content (probably wishful thinking but maybe possible) that's not bad at all.If we're willing to make our 3 time slots of "A" games a commitment to a Thursday, Friday and Saturday late prime time ("Pac-12 After Dark"), we can probably get that or more. Then we still have our "B" & "C" for second tier networks and streaming.
They were good with the NHL as well. Also, I’m pretty sure the Vickers TD was on TBS.Turner does a great job with NBA and the Dance. Makes sense. They could get in the football business while getting a lot of quality hoops content which would probably include a "Game of the Week" for CBS. Football is certainly king, but it's valuable basketball property for this buyer, too.
Thought about this as well. If TBS and TNT put together a CFB show like what they have with the NBA and now the NHL, that would be fantastic.TBS was actually really good with the NHL. Surprisingly good, in fact. I wouldn’t mind a partnership with them at all.