"What should be done eventually, must be done immediately"
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#Fire Coach Dorrell
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"What should be done eventually, must be done immediately"
Big Jim
WTF?
I find that spot on. Not too many thought he was a good hire at the time so he doesn't have much of a constituency to back him after 1.5 bad games.
Rick George?
We'd have a few more winning seasons if we only played the first half of the season every year.
This one is certainly going well.
Maybe we should have stopped at 1 and claimed a share of the natty?
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ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Disagree. I don't see him at a blueblood because he's already been fired from one. No reason why CU can't get him-especially since he's going to be collecting UT buyout money for a while.
I think the only way Herman comes onboard is if by some miracle we cleared house at the end of the season and gave him a fresh slate as HC.
I don’t think he’d come here to be OC.
2018 National Champs!
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Probably right. I had hoped we could go for another Jim Leavitt special where we bring in a top coordinator to help save the HC’s job, but Herman and Leavitt were certainly in different stages of their career rehabilitation.
And by the way, if we were actually in the market for a HC (which realistically I don’t think we will be for a while) I absolutely believe someone like Herman should be within reach for CU - otherwise WTF are we even doing playing P5 football?
I agree, but feels like Herman is still somewhat of a hot name. Maybe not for the blue bloods, but CU is far from a tier 2 P5 program. If James Franklin takes the USC job, for example, Herman feels like a solid candidate for Penn State. Great recruiter and pretty solid coach; just wasn't good enough for Texas (hint: nobody that can't win a National Championship within 3 years is going to be).
If he still has 2 years left of Texas paying him $5m/year to not coach, I feel like he can be pretty picky and would be looking at programs that fall into the caliber of Miami, Michigan State, Penn State, Washington, ASU, UCLA, Tennessee, Florida State, etc. Obviously CU isn't in that tier of jobs.
Or, maybe I'm way off base with my perception of Herman and the caliber of jobs he's a candidate for and CU would be fairly realistic.
Outside of Duff's snark (which is pretty damn funny), I see a few reasons to give a coach four years to get his players.
Coaching staff is installing a new scheme that is drastically different from what the previous staff was doing (see GT)
Coaching staff has a proven track record of building something (see Mack Brown at UNC)
There's clear evidence that the players coming in are an upgrade.
I'm not sure that any of those apply here.
I thought of that. But last year didn't have non-conference opponents other than UT in the Alamo Bowl. I believe it's only our 2nd winning conference record in 15 years.
I missed the context of this reply and thought you were advocating for KD to keep the job for 4 years based on those factors and I about lost my mind haha
Unless it's a disaster, I think you give 3 years. If the win/loss isn't there in year 3, there better be mitigating circumstances and a very positive recruiting trajectory.
All things aside, I’m not advocating to fire Dorrell yet. He must hire a competent OC who will be calling plays no later than spring ball.
This week will tell us a lot. ASU isn’t as good as advertised and there are clearly a lot of distractions going on in that program right now. If CU’s offense doesn’t have a bounce back performance, what does the rest of the season look like? 1-2 more wins at best? 1-11, 2-10 or 3-9 would an absolute disaster for this program
Karl Dorrell exudes excitement
True, but we were not a team trending up and our (lack of) depth was about to be tested with Landman getting hurt and the unrealistic possibly of JBru being able to maintain that pace. The best we looked all year was the 1st half of game 1.
Another issue I have with Dorrell is the captain stuff. New captains every week, chosen by the coaches, not the players. Who are the leaders of this program? What kind of culture is being set? McChesney and Vickers discussed this yesterday and I agree.
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The punt instead of going for it on fourth down before the game got out of hand killed me. The student section was going nuts, they've been great this year, and that punt was a kick in the nuts to them and every other fan.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
You might be right that Herman would have some good options in a year, but I think they’d actually be more limited this December just 1 season removed from being fired and away from the college game. Another year from now he’ll likely be more en vogue - it’s why I really liked taking a risk with Sark 2 years ago when there was still some uncertainty around him. We need to take a little risk and a lower pressure job like CU might be appealing if we could get the money right to show a real commitment to a solid staff.
If Franklin leaves for USC I’m looking at Fickell or Matt Campbell for the PSU job.
What a blessing that shortened season was for him as well. Cannot prove it but they were not going to win another game last season if it had continued. At best 1 more win and a losing season. I just do not have it in me to give home much of a break because of it.
Let’s see what happens from here on out. If
Major changes are not made on O and recruiting does not improve, you might as well cut bait because it is as good right now as it is going to get with this staff
Harbaugh would likely be on the short list for any NFL job is he got fired/resigned from Michigan.
Big Jim
WTF?
Yeah, I was pretty surprised when RG didn't hire Harbaugh after Midnight flew off.
1.5 bad games?