ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Nothing is going to do that quicker than taking a definition of insanity approach on that side of the ball this week.
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#Fire Coach Dorrell
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Nothing is going to do that quicker than taking a definition of insanity approach on that side of the ball this week.
72grad
Well-Known Member
If you are not going to script an offense to take advantage of Lewis's running skills, then go ahead and make the switch. Commit to a pro style offense and get on with it. It seems weird to totally completely disdain the option, especially with Darian Hagan in the building.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Okay-you win. Let's install the Air Force offense in the middle of a season!
Jesus ****ing Christ.
DeNiro
My Dixie Wrecked
I don't want DH anywhere near our offensive planning beyond RBs. The offense he was in then vs now is checkers vs chess as the game has evolved. What has he done to develop as a coach to suggest he can design and install any phase of an offense?
Sit the next one out. Neither of these responses are close to what we're suggesting. Consensus is pretty much universal, this is mostly on Chev. Playing Carter all game yesterday wouldn't have made a lick of difference.
hawg1
Well-Known Member
Chev in a demoted role could be toxic. You recall his ego and antics when pursuing the HC position via Twitter (immature) then leveraging his “unique worth” into the OC position.
in my mind, he’s been forced on the last two HCs. I think he has to go.
hawg1
Well-Known Member
No points last 20 drives. Lewis 24.4 QBR.
I am discussing what I believe will happen given the players involved. You are talking about what should happen based upon what is probably best for the program. These are separate conversations.
hawg1
Well-Known Member
I hear ya. And I fear it as well. But that makes me shudder.
Surely Dorrell will try to help him with a soft landing elsewhere.
Dorrell’s boss has a hard-on for Chev. This is a fantasy.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Running the west coast offense in college is a terrible idea unless you have elite talent to run it - when you’re roster looks like ours and you recruit like dogs**t you have a recipe for disaster. Dorrell ran it at UCLA, he ran is terribly at Vandy and he’s trying to run it here. It’s not working.
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Almost like the offensive scheme should have been part of the interviewing process. Then again, do we actually believe KD had to interview, or was he basically offered the job after telling RG and LC it was his dream job and he wouldn’t leave after a year?
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
We’re all hoping Dorrell fires Chev and takes over playcalling duties - the same Dorrell that f**king Vanderbilt fired after one season because the offense was so bad.
This is CU football.
72grad
Well-Known Member
It's what McCartney did. Are we too good to grasp at straws at this point?
DeNiro
My Dixie Wrecked
So we should install a scheme no one is prepared for in there middle of the season. With coaches who don't know how to execute it. We worked be destroyed worse than the MN game.
72grad
Well-Known Member
Lewis could probably run the option better than be a pocket passer.
Worse than 63 yards of total offense doesn’t leave a lot of downside. Seriously, worrying about worse than that isn’t a real concern.
DeNiro
My Dixie Wrecked
You do realize, it isn't just that simple right? He has to learn a whole new set of plays, that have multiple reads and it's an offense he's never seen. It's not a video game.
It’s simple if you install simple plays. When you have a young team, there is an inverse relationship between effectiveness of your offense and the size of play the playbook
Something, something, we just have to execute.
That's still one or two games better than what we have now.
Even if, three games from now, DC's have it figured out, it's better than where we are right the **** now.
Forget a season of good offense, how about one game?
there are a lot of ways to simplify the offense. We aren’t doing any of them. If HCKD thinks that the West Coast offense is the way to win in college football than he was an exceptionally bad hire.
pcbuff
Well-Known Member
Rick George was left in an impossible situation with Tucker’s departure and a rudderless program forcing prompt change. Chev made his power play and landed as OC. He was our best recruiter, and the new coach took him. Now, he doesn’t recruit and should recognize his strength and get back to it or get fired. The new coach was never going to work out. He was a stop gap brought on by the circumstances.
I’m frustrated and becoming a bit disinterested.
I’m frustrated and becoming a bit disinterested.
He could have went with a up and coming coordinator. He didn’t have to pick KD. That was his choice to do so and a choice that is setting the program back again.
Yep. CU had options and good ones
This staff is forcing a scheme on its starting QB that doesn't help him. That's on both the OC for doing it and the HC for allowing it.
It does have a lot of that Danny fifth year feel to it right about now. Rudderless, gaps in the talent, incomprehensible play calling. Beatdowns, the lot.
Keeping Danny that last year set CU back 3 years IMO.
My initial take on HCKD was, and still is, good guy, solid character, a former Buff you want to succeed, but could not recruit at fUCLA. He replaced a (.600) HC at fUCLA, and went...(.565). Given he inherited a team here with below average talent relative to its conference peers, and a tendency to go 5-7, he likely will underachieve, but just by a little bit, compared to his predecessor.
That is why I felt more 5-7, 4-8 seasons were likely in the immediate future. I may have been optimisitic.
I don't know who was really available at the time, Bielema (not a favorite of mine), Mora, Jr., etc., but HCKD just seems like a panic choice.
Let's see what happens v. ASU.