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Julmisse arrested Thursday, court appearance Friday - dismissed from the team
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AllStarBuffs
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Because a 3rd degree assault charge doesn't stem from throwing a cell phone into a creek, pretty simple if you ask me.
It does when a 3rd degree assault charge is automatically added to a DV charge.
I had a friend who was charged with that for poking someone in the chest while he was in an argument. Seriously people chill the heck out before we call for the death penalty on this guy.
This is insane. An arrest is proof of nothing. Get a hold of yourself, man.
In the courts where I practice, defendants stay in jail until they see a judge. Doesn't matter that you were arrested with a joint. I don't know enough about how bail works in Boulder to weigh in, but just because a guy was held until he could see the judge the next day doesn't necessarily mean anything about the seriousness of the charges.
AllStarBuffs
Member
"According to an arrest affidavit warrant, a woman alleges Julmisse grabbed her arm, dragged her down the hallway and tried to push her down the stairs when she confronted him about his other girlfriend this past Sunday."
See. now we have a problem.
SerenityBuff
Well-Known Member
JOEinDenver
National Championship or Bust
When are men going to get protection from a CB attack.
Oh no, not good.
Not good. I suspect he is gone.
Ok shame on me for taking @AllStarBuffs at face value.
After reading the full description of the event from both sides in the link posted by @SerenityBuff, I am really unsure about what is going to happen with this.
After reading the full description of the event from both sides in the link posted by @SerenityBuff, I am really unsure about what is going to happen with this.
For those that won't click the link here is the description of the events.
She left the building, then went back up to his apartment and told him to leave her alone?
She left the building, then went back up to his apartment and told him to leave her alone?
SerenityBuff
Well-Known Member
Didn't we just discuss this? You don't have the right to physically remove someone from your apartment complex. If she's outside yelling, call the police. Don't take it upon yourself to remove her, especially if you feel she's a threat.
Based on what I read, this is next to nothing. Conspicuously missing from the police report is any note of injury. Believe me, if the woman had a red patch on her arm, the cop would've put it in his report. Julmisse gave a completely believable account of what happened (though, of course, he could've been untruthful.) Based solely on this report, put this case before a jury and you get an acquittal almost every time. I can hear my summation now: "Every day Anthony practices tackling men weighing 200 or more pounds. If he wanted to throw this lady down the stairs, she would've been down the stairs."
I'll give the obligatory "domestic violence is bad" but it's far from clear that's what this was.
Please carry on with the hand wringing.
No I know. He should have called the cops to remove her instead of "escorting" or pulling or dragging or pushing her away. I feel like he could just as easily file harassment charges against her though.
JOEinDenver
National Championship or Bust
A friend of mine with the Denver PD A detective of over 25 years, always warned me about CB's. He said the police and the courts will all most always take their side. When are we going to rewrite legal status to protect men from CB's. The only thing you can do is start recording and call the police. In the case of these kids, you better call your coach also.
SerenityBuff
Well-Known Member
You lawyers are a special breed.
Reminds of an apartment living episode many years ago. Angry GF goes to door of then, soon to be ex-BF, yelling at him about how she hoped he was happy and he got what he wanted. Then she left, came back largely repeating the same crap, this time throwing a couple of items of personal property, presumably belonging to the BF. She came, and went, 3 or 4 times. Each time with the proviso, "I never want to see you again!". I watched from my balcony, with amusement, and a cold one.
Not sure why you are singling out Cornerbacks...
What's your point?
For those of you that think this is next to nothing.... In 1970 or 1980, this is next to nothing. In today's environment, once he grabbed her, he is violating the law. This is a serious legal issue for him. I don't see him enrolled at CU in a month. I am an advocate for second chances, unfortunately for him, the timing could not have been worse.
I'm glad no one got hurt.
This is tough. From the limited amount of info in the BDC article, it appears that she was a woman scorn and acting in such a way that AJ felt threatened. What he should have done was lock his door and call the cops. Unfortunately, he did not, and he attempted to escort this young woman away....it appears to me that he had no intent to actually harm her, he was trying to diffuse the situation.
A man should never lay a hand on a woman. But what is this? It is somewhat of a grey area IMO....it appears he wasn't acting in rage or anger....but more fear. If all of that is true, what is his culpability? What is hers? We live in a different day in age to be sure.....but this does not strike me as an assault in the true sense of the term. What happens to AJ from here on out will likely be largely influenced by the political environment in its current state....which is unfortunate. I wish he would have just locked his door and called the cops, and allowed her to call him whatever names she wanted for not confronting the situation.....
That's not how it works. There's probable cause for the arrest based just on the woman's statement. The judge doesn't have the authority to throw out or dismiss the charges based on questions of credibility. Based on the relatively minor nature of the allegation (putting aside that he tried to throw her down the stairs because I think that's a relatively incredible assertion) and the proof problems (she returned after yelling at him once and was heard by a third party screaming at the top of her lungs) I would expect some sort of deferred prosecution or deferred sentence deal. Even a gung ho DV prosecutor will know that this is not an easy case in which to get a conviction and will gladly settle for something to hold over Julmisse's head for 6 months or a year and make him attend counseling.
