Yes, but that's just to make them feel comfortable doing what the money guys tell them to do.
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Ladies and gentlemen, the Prime effect
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Relegation will never be agreed upon. It’s a complete non starter
We HAVE been Relegated, we are in the 3rd or 4th division/conference
in this concept of a super league with 12 divisions like what’s been posted here, there will never be a relegation system where teams would move up and down based on performance in a given season.
I agree with that premise
The LEAGUE is the finish line, and we are in 45th place in the race to get there
No conference is going to kick a member out. That's not happening.
But, much like happened to the pac12, the top tier of a conference can move to another conference and leave the others behind. Also see SWC conference collapse back in the day.
Alternatively, a powerful group of conference members can leave en mass to create a new conference, much like what happened to the wac when the top tier of that conference left to go form the mwc.
That's how relegation happens in the real world, and if it happens this time around it will follow the same path.
What is interesting is that the big10 conference reportedly has ties that extend beyond athletics. Preferred admission to each other's grad schools, placement for post docs, library sharing agreements, joint bulk purchasing arrangements, etc. That serves to both make the conference more durable, and lessens the liklihood of any member or group of members leaving the others behind.
It also adds value to every member beyond athletic broadcast distributions, and is one of the reasons they value AAU membership. [Note: Oregon proves they have a price that can be met on that one, but reportedly the other university presidents were very pissed off when NU lost their AAU designation shortly after joining.]
So, I'm very surprised to learn that CU has been outperforming peer schools (ie. Non-P2) in TV ratings prior to last year, especially with how much attention there was on this forum re: poor distribution of the PAC 12 Network.
Can anyone post data to support the claim of high ratings relative to our record?
Not saying it's not true, just saying I'm finding it surprising.
Can anyone post data to support the claim of high ratings relative to our record?
Not saying it's not true, just saying I'm finding it surprising.
Colorado was a Big Brand, especially to anyone that was in their early adulthood from 1990-2005 and then we systematically worked to destroy it, because there was not enough trust and balance between academia and athletics because one or the other wanted to dominate or not work together.
I think we are in the most balanced space we have ever been and it took a man like Deion Sanders that blends athletic excellence with confidence, and a little religion. Prime is intertwining with the Brand and Culture and it is working nicely because he wants to work with the school.
However, despite all that, the Colorado Football Brand needs to be treated like a Billion Dollar Baby and cannot ever go back to being manipulated or damaged by the whims of the school. Building your brand up is hard, tearing it down can happen quickly, especially if there is not a consistent brand building element. then the brand will fluctuate.
It's a specific claim, and it is that our tv ratings outperform our win loss record.
In other words, when we're 1-11, we deliver better ratings than most, if not all, of the other 1-11 teams.
And this seems to be true regardless of our record. When we're 4-8, we deliver more eyeballs than other P5 4-8 teams.
I mean, when the competition is Indiana and Vanderbilt, it's not like it's a high bar.
But it scales up too.
In the 90s, we started great, and ended good. There were other teams during that decade that were overall better than us. Including some of the marquee, "name" teams.
Back then, having a "national" broadcast was a big deal, and you better believe they only put teams on the national broadcast that would deliver ratings.
The college team with the most national broadcasts in the 90s? **** Notre Dame.
The second most?
Not tOSU, not michigan, not USC, not Oklahoma, Texas, Alabama, or even FSU or Miami.
It was CU.
When we're having a 2-10 season, we don't draw more eyeballs than a 7-5 Alabama team, but we sure as **** outperform a 2-10 Iowa, UCLA, or OleMiss team.
And that outperformance does exceed even many of the "elite" schools when we're good.
We just sucked for so long that everyone seemed to forget this.
LOL, Danny Kannell. You should be more worried about keeping your job rather than continually trolling Prime. Just watch the opening 15 seconds.
CSU actually 4th in the West right now from being the only team in the region which has played CU.
They also got a decent boost from the Texas game, 1.8 million viewers for that one
Del
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My favorite part is the fact we are CRUSHING Oregon.
I hope CU has teams of experts, working around the clock to figure out how to pay prime what he is worth.
CU absolutely does not
Fixed
Is Oregon a REAL Brand? They are the Tech Bros, they have the uniforms, but are they a cross country appeal?
I do not think we are all fully appreciating how Prime has brought the Black audience to CU, from every corner of the country.
It is also nice to have 2 Million Racist Haters every week, because the networks do not care.
Medford M.
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Be curious to see...of our four FBS opponents, how much their viewership was bolstered by playing us.
Medford M.
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Top 5 in viewership every week except NDSU...which was 6th
www.sportsmediawatch.com
College Football TV Ratings
College football TV ratings for the 2024 regular season, bowls, College Football Playoff and National Championship.
www.sportsmediawatch.com
Sooo top 6?Top 5 in viewership every week except NDSU...which was 6th
College Football TV Ratings
College football TV ratings for the 2024 regular season, bowls, College Football Playoff and National Championship.
Nebraska's been in the top 5 twice this year, against CU and Illinois. CU has been in the top 6 every week. Logic and deductive reasoning would show that CU is the draw, not Nebraska.
If that's the criteria, there's no doubt that Nub fans will continue to believe that their team is the draw everyone tuned in to watch.
Mick Ronson
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C'mon now, don't be daft. Alll those viewers in Houston, Dallas, all over the Great State of Texas, new SEC country, nationwide..... were watching UT-CSU to see the Rams. Rare trip to DKR. History type stuff. Teams like CSU don't do home-homes, don't travel.
Stuff your kids tell their kids about.
JMBuffs
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Are you ****ing fact checking again! What's the first rule of the GOP?!?!
Tap your foot twice?
Mick Ronson
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Totally agree about Prime blending Brand and Culture and working with the school. Hawkins sort of claimed to be doing that, too. Not sure if so..... DH became a Saint to himself once promising junk in the trunk National Championships turned out were actually 3 or 5 win seasons.
I digress.
My dad (CU Law 77 or 78 maybe, MBA too) until he died in July 2023 maintained without relent that the REAL problem at CU was despite the success Buff football had with Mac was at the time we had a normal ho hum mid sized athletic department. Not small time.....but narrow minded athletic department without vision to DO SOMETHING with the increased revenue and exposure to the university after 1990. Get equal with OU and Nebraska and Kansas in hoops. That they didn't capitalize on the opportunity in front of them, at all.
Instead of seeing this as a way to reorganize the AD, pump money into the other revenue sports Men's hoops which was pretty dreadful then and continued to be......FFS, I used to go to games at the CEC in the early 00's and the paint on the walls was still Fairbanks baby blue striping.
As it stood, we had people content to sit on their happy ass, pat themselves on the back for Mac's success, and do drinks on Thurs and Friday happy hours at Dolan's...instead of using the revenue from a NC and being the most on TV program for a few years to have a vision of a complete, future looking athletic department.
Missed opportunity that we were still living like a bad dream through until Prime. This is not a post about on-field performance which I'm still kinda "continue to show me".
And a larger than the Sun attaboy to Tad Boyle for carrying the water for a few to more than a few years.
Mick
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