$3 million is objectively a lot of money.
$3 million is below average for competitive P5 programs.
Colorado’s AD will have to fundraise in order to make up the gap.
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Mel Tucker leaves CU for Michigan State
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$3 million is below average for competitive P5 programs.
Colorado’s AD will have to fundraise in order to make up the gap.
No. If we’re trying to be a championship program, this budget will not cut it.
WarBuff
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I don’t know, but the thought that we lose a number of coaches and possibly players this late in the process needs to be addressed.
01Buff
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Ah, ok. So potentially a G5 has more leverage to protect themselves after a extension with a higher buyout knowing bigger programs will come calling?
Idk, obviously we were caught flatted footed on that piece or out leveraged because RG and LC bought the snake oil.
NuggNinja
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Tucker was the 9th highest paid coach in the PAC 12 and likely would have gotten a raise if he’d wanted to stay.
That’s not bad for an unproven head coach with a career 5 and 7 record.
You have to protect yourself in case it doesn’t work out, so unless you’re hiring Urban Meyer, I don’t think they should break the bank for head coaches.
I don’t think head coach salary is an issue, I think its assistants pool money is the bigger issue. Other teams have doubled some of CU’s better assistants to get them to leave over the past 5 or so years.
NuggNinja
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MSU made a career 5-7 coach the 12th highest paid coach in all of college football.
They were desperate and Midnight Mel always viewed CU as a stepping stone. A series of events that couldn’t have been foreseen unfolded.
Yes. Total compensation is vital. AC budget is crucial, but you need a HC who can get the assistants.
CU should do better at contracts.
But I don't know that Jack Graham's financial management as AD should ever be used as a benchmark.
And in this case I had just posted a small correction to another post about the context of a deal.
01Buff
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I agree 100%. MSU was desperate and acted irrationally. But this conversation about buyouts seems to show that RG and his team undervalued the importance of that clause last year.
I think I read somewhere that MT’s buyouts in his MSU contract were very similar to what he had here? $6.5M year one and $2.5M year two. That leads me to believe that these are demands by Mel....which says a lot. One thing it says is that he probably wouldn’t have come here with higher buyouts. Another thing it says is “give me an easy way out in year two if I need it.”
Maybe we shouldn’t be so hard on RG regarding this shortfall in MT’s contract. RG didn’t see this coming, oh well. What’s MSU’s excuse?
01Buff
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Wow, you’re right. And the sub tweet continues about year for year extensions for any penalties from violations prior to arrival.
MT’s buyout got to $3 million after the second NSD. It was $10 million in December. We structured a poor deal.
I’m not saying it was a good deal, I’m saying that CU might not have had a choice. I’m saying it looks like this is a demand by Mel, RG gambled and lost. His deal at MSU is even sweeter, and they have WAY more money committed. There is a pattern here.
I get it. We have to learn a lesson and make better decisions next time around. We can prevent the poaching, but it will require an investment.
plenty of socialism in CFB as well. Mostly built on slave labor
That’s the other thing I forgot to say before. Mel had two different agents during this time. There is only one constant between these negotiations, and that is Snake Oil Mel.
One wonders if MSU was actually in full on panic/crisis mode and lunged off a bridge without thinking, and if the higher ups are now sitting around pondering this deal and getting very nervous.
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I hope for all of us that starting tomorrow this thread dies.
Come on, you guys. He was committed. But with enough money, he is no longer committed. It's not that hard. His commitment can be purchased.
We know where you stand.
241Volcanos
Well-Known Member
Tucker got worked by Air Force at home.
SIAP. Good article on the perspective of some donors.
We were hoodwinked
Edit: Sorry. Was posted earlier.
We were hoodwinked
Edit: Sorry. Was posted earlier.
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Is Kosher kosher?
Can’t have a funeral until there is a wedding. But, I agree.
Last I’ll say about our former HC because I’m over him. For everyone hoping for “karma” to get even and for NCAA sanctions to destroy his new school and for his abject failure, etc, etc, etc, you are wasting your time and energy. He will, most likely, be very successful.
So forget about OFHC and look ahead. He left us better off than we were. RG knows what he’s doing and, believe it or not, the CU job has a great deal of appeal. Very soon a new era will begin.
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So forget about OFHC and look ahead. He left us better off than we were. RG knows what he’s doing and, believe it or not, the CU job has a great deal of appeal. Very soon a new era will begin.
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