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Montez’s 2018 Season - Thoughts?

4BienemyTDs said:
This was in the Omaha World Herald as a preview of the Nubs opposing QB's:
https://www.omaha.com/huskers/footb...cle_b5ae8b69-e67d-5541-8497-9e2c37fedd00.html
McKewon: Breakdown of quarterbacks Huskers will face provides glimpse of challenges ahead

Here is a breakdown of the quarterbacks Nebraska is likely to face in 2018 or the situations still too murky to determine with certainty.
Top shelf

Steven Montez, Colorado: Big-play passer. Montez averaged 7.9 yards per attempt last season, which is impressive for a relatively high-volume passer at 31.4 passes per game. He struggled away from Folsom Field, completing 54.4 percent of his passes in six games. The 6-foot-5, 230-pound junior is a big, bruising runner, not fast but effective. He has rushed for 569 yards over two seasons, and that includes all the sacks he has taken; CU gave up 39 last season alone.

There seems to be a level of respect about Montez this year and he is being expected to function in the top 40% of PAC 12 and overall in the country. I really hope he makes a push to be a Top Shelf guy!!!
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I would say that the conventional wisdom is that Montez is better than many of the QBs we saw starting in bowl games last season and that even without improvement he wouldn't be the guy who holds CU back from making a bowl this year. Rather, that he's a plus guy at his position who hasn't come close to reaching his physical potential and that if he reaches that potential he could cover a lot of other deficiencies this CU might have until it would gel together.
 
I really think there is a significant jump here and we see him actually lead and make decent decisions. With that kind of performance, you see 8+ wins. Without it, MM is looking for a job because they miss a bowl.
 
Theoretically he his stats were good enough last year that we should have made a bowl game. I distinctly remember 3 drops in the end zone and lord knows there were more. But yes, punching the ball in on the ground inside the 10 was our achilles heal. If we figure out that enigma, while figuring out how to stop other teams from railing off 45-yard plays at will, the season should go alright.
 
If we can cut down on the sacks, which is a mutual project between O-Line protections and Montez decisions, then that will improve so many things related to 3 and outs, field position, and drive continuity.

Also, his stats last year were not the problem, just a few key games he was not able to make the play, or the receivers were not able to make the play.

I think that a modest improvement by Montez in his play, combined with what I think is the most dynamic receiving corps that we have ever had (better than the last 3 years) will mean something really special. I am predicting some seriously long TD's this year, both on long throws, and on short throws that are turned into long runs. Ento, Winfree, Shenault, Brown, and Nixon can break any catch into a long TD, which I do not believe we were completely getting the last few years in enough ways, even though we had some great players, they were not making enough plays based on talent. The results of the NFL Draft and FA with our WR's tells us they were good college players and maybe not NFL talent. I am a little worried about how soon Shenault goes pro, because he is legit!!!

I am excited to see this bunch throttle the Rammies and get everything worked out, so we can go into Lincoln and roll the Huskers with a dose of their own medicine.
 
onealcd said:
The good thing is we can see a significant improvement in our offense without his stats getting a lot better if we just do better in the red zone. We were middle of he pack in yards but bottom pack in scoring.
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They were 68th in Red Zone scoring % at 84.1%. The stats show 44 RZ trips, 15 rushing TDs, 10 passing TDs, 12 FGs made. That's a pretty bad conversion rate with only 44 attempts. First, their attempts need to be in the 50-60 range, IMO, and their conversion rate needs to be 88-90%.
 


SIAP in another thread but thought this wasn’t interesting and definitely shows that other fans/media have a higher opinion of Montez than most of the posters here
 
Bread said:


SIAP in another thread but thought this wasn’t interesting and definitely shows that other fans/media have a higher opinion of Montez than most of the posters here
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Nobody doubts his physical talent and the ability to make plays. The question is about leadership and willingness to do the hard mental and physical work to prepare for every game in a season.
 
Should have clarified, I’m not saying I think he’s going to have some monster year and be worthy of the watch list. Nor do I think watch lists hold much stake. I wanted to state my initial point that he’s more highly thought of elsewhere, which is the point of being named to a watch list
 
Bread said:
Should have clarified, I’m not saying I think he’s going to have some monster year and be worthy of the watch list. Nor do I think watch lists hold much stake. I wanted to state my initial point that he’s more highly thought of elsewhere, which is the point of being named to a watch list
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He is a returning starter at a marquee position, which tends to invite undue hype.
 
Bread said:


SIAP in another thread but thought this wasn’t interesting and definitely shows that other fans/media have a higher opinion of Montez than most of the posters here
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Last year really put a damper on the rehabilitation of most beleaguered Buffs fans that were beaten into submission by over a decade of bad football. Had we gone to a bowl game and then we can look back at Montez's season in a different light. I have and have always had a lot of optimism about SM, even though his immaturity has been his downfall at times. If Roper can get through to him, then there is a potential to have a really special season, because he has a freakishly good receiving corps that I feel no other Buffs QB has had in a long time, in relation to the type of offense being ran. Completion rate can be really high, yardage can be high, and therefore as mentioned on this string, if decisions in the red zone, and especially inside the 10 are better and touchdowns are earned, then we will win 8+ games. Consistent outside praise is a very good sign that other neutral experts feel that there is a chance for a good to great season out of him. The fans that are cautious or down on Steven just need more time to heal, and beating up on CSU and NU will help that.
 
CUAviator said:
Theoretically he his stats were good enough last year that we should have made a bowl game. I distinctly remember 3 drops in the end zone and lord knows there were more. But yes, punching the ball in on the ground inside the 10 was our achilles heal. If we figure out that enigma, while figuring out how to stop other teams from railing off 45-yard plays at will, the season should go alright.
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Drops cost Buffs ASU and UCLA last year. Montez was good enough to go bowling and will be better this year.
 
241Volcanos said:
Drops cost Buffs ASU and UCLA last year. Montez was good enough to go bowling and will be better this year.
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All comes back to the OL. If they can give Montez time to throw and create some push for the RBs we have the talent to be a bowl team, and not just barely slide in. If we can't do that then it is going to be a long, ugly season.
 
Montez needs better protection and fewer drops, yes, but he also needs to be much better at pre-snap blitz reads and going through route progressions. I felt like defenses were getting pretty good at frustrating him in conference play.
 
BuffNut99 said:
Montez needs better protection and fewer drops, yes, but he also needs to be much better at pre-snap blitz reads and going through route progressions. I felt like defenses were getting pretty good at frustrating him in conference play.
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Hopefully that comes with coaching, maturity, and better support from his teammates.

It is worth remembering that coming out of HS Montez was well behind the curve in terms of development. He played in a weak league that he could dominate without having to be a better QB. He has the athletic skills but his learning curve is steeper than guys like Lytle who played in a top California league and had a strong 7 on 7 background or Stenstrom who had solid coaching at the HS level and an NFL QB father.
 
MtnBuff said:
Hopefully that comes with coaching, maturity, and better support from his teammates.

It is worth remembering that coming out of HS Montez was well behind the curve in terms of development. He played in a weak league that he could dominate without having to be a better QB. He has the athletic skills but his learning curve is steeper than guys like Lytle who played in a top California league and had a strong 7 on 7 background or Stenstrom who had solid coaching at the HS level and an NFL QB father.
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Montez’ dad played in the NFL as well.
 
DBT said:
But he wasn’t just some random dad who played catch with his kid in the back yard.
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Definitely not. I think he coached Steven in both Deming and El Paso and he obviously had a good college career to even make it to the NFL. Still, Steve Stenstrom started games in the NFL and stuck around for 5 years.
 
BuffsNYC said:
Definitely not. I think he coached Steven in both Deming and El Paso and he obviously had a good college career to even make it to the NFL. Still, Steve Stenstrom started games in the NFL and stuck around for 5 years.
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And Stenstrom played his HS ball in a higher level environment.

Bottom line is that we can expect those two to be further along coming in than Steven was.
 
BuffsNYC said:
Definitely not. I think he coached Steven in both Deming and El Paso and he obviously had a good college career to even make it to the NFL. Still, Steve Stenstrom started games in the NFL and stuck around for 5 years.
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No argument there
 
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