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Official 2019/20 CFB Coaching Carousel
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DeNiro
My Dixie Wrecked
He's easily second rate dog trash, knocking on the door of first rate.
Did you happen to catch the playoff rankings last night?
Hahahaha, so you are going to use 2019 first week playoff rankings as your argument for which job is better? Come on man.
I’m using the rankings as evidence of why would he leave a team on the cusp of the CFB playoff for a school that’s been dysfunctional for the last decade.
Penn State survived a scandal that would have destroyed most programs (ours included). Meanwhile, USC is a hot mess and is regressing before our eyes.
USC might have a higher ceiling, but side by side at this moment, Penn State is the better job, especially for the guy who is largely responsible for making it that way.
USC might have a higher ceiling, but side by side at this moment, Penn State is the better job, especially for the guy who is largely responsible for making it that way.
Because in one recruiting cycle he can accumulate more talent on the roster at USC, in two he will have enough talent on the roster to compete with the top teams in the country (this means actually beat them in the playoff not just on the cusp of making it there) and an easier path to the playoff. He also gets to be in LA and in the spotlight. He can recuit 85% of his the talent on his roster from within LA.
Then why hasn’t any of this happened since Pete Carrol left? If I’m Franklin, that’s the exact question I’m asking myself.
He has PSU rolling and it’s not difficult at all to recruit there either, so I don’t see a case for him to gamble on SC. For ****s sake, you saw the list of ADs that said no to that job before they got to Bohn. Something’s internally broken at USC.
USC has been in complete disaray for the last 10 years and still averaged almost 9 wins a season over the time period. That is with some terrible, terrible coaches, two awful athletic directors and a tough schedule that includes ND every year. Just imagine what they could do with a good head coach. Here is a hint, the last time they had a good head coach they had one of the best stretches in college football history.
hawg1
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Dog trash. He is a rehabilitated, Christian man making a difference in young men’s lives and the wider FAU community.
And I think he will coach P5 again.
Because they have propped up ex-USC Athletes as their ADs and made poor hiring decisions? USC would be a dream job for anyone who's ever been to State College in Nov/Dec/Jan/Feb/Mar/April. It's the valley of dampness and brutal cold. It's almost as tough to win there as Nebraska.
It is pretty simple actually, it is because they had Hadan and Swan as their athletic directors and they made awful football hires. Just imagine, the school that was coming off one of the best runs in college football history hired Lane Kiffin, Sark and then Clay Helton (also passed on Coach O who really wanted to coach there).
You really think Franklin gives a **** about weather when weighing this decision? He wants a path to long term success, money, and a shot at championships annually. All of which PSU gives him. When was the last time the Trojans were competing for anything?
So, what you’re saying is that USC’s ceiling is higher. It’s too bad nobody else made that same observation.
Ha, so now Bohn is an upgrade at AD? Weird argument.
I just pointed out that their floor is higher too.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
When was the last time Penn State competed for anything before Franklin got there? USC is hardly the reclamation project Penn State was and USC’s path to conference titles looks a lot easier than in Happy Valley. And yes, quality of life is a factor.
100% Bohn is an upgrade over Swan.
Your argument has the same flaw as Oneal’s. It relies on history, rather than the present situation to make a judgment.
You said it yourself, Franklin was able to come in and turn PSU around and now they’re knocking on the door of the playoffs. Why would he now leave to go to another rebuild when he has a blue blood program back in the top 4?
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Because they’re likely to be 2nd banana in their own division for.....probably for ever. Also SoCal>>>Happy Valley (from quality of life, weather, access to recruits, etc, etc.)
Using the first playoff rankings as your proof is about as flawed an argument as I have seen, they haven't even had their two toughest road games yet. Penn State isn't a blue blood.
Again, when you go to USC the term rebuild isn't correct. There is already talent there and you can land a top 3 class in a heartbeat.
Last nights rankings are just a piece that illustrates the bigger trajectory of both schools. One is in the top 4, the other just got blown out against a conference opponent.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
The opportunity to coach a blue blood program who sits atop their conference pecking order only comes along every so often. Penn State will never be that program, but USC can be.
Even Urban Meyer, who had a great thing going in Gainesville, GTFO when he realized Alabama was king of the SEC again.
Even Urban Meyer, who had a great thing going in Gainesville, GTFO when he realized Alabama was king of the SEC again.
Was it that, or ****ing his grad assistant? Let’s not rewrite history for the sake of your argument.
Again, access to recruits is NOT an issue at Penn State. Quality of life is subjective. Los Angeles is crowded, polluted, and very, very expensive. The weather is nice, though. Is the climate an issue for Franklin? I honestly don’t know.
I’ll concede that the ceiling is higher at USC, but the two programs are much different now. USC is a reclamation project. Unless Franklin likes that kind of challenge, he would be taking a step down.
I’ll concede that the ceiling is higher at USC, but the two programs are much different now. USC is a reclamation project. Unless Franklin likes that kind of challenge, he would be taking a step down.
Also, USC has had one relevant season since 2008.
You are talking about who has the better team now, and which is the better job. Which are two totally different things and there is really no question which is the better job.
Apparently, there is.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
That’s being pretty naive. Just like I’m sure his health played a role also...only to get into coaching 2 years later.
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