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Da Lama said:
Wristen won't leave Pueblo because he won't get hired anywhere else. There's...baggage.
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There is baggage, fair to say that he is still at Pueblo due to that baggage. He has interviewed for a couple of jobs including Illinois State in the MAC and Montana State which is in the FCS with UNC but a much better program with better resources.

Point is that UNC isn't necessarily a step up from where he is right now. If he goes someplace it will be for a better job than UNC.
 
MtnBuff said:
There is baggage, fair to say that he is still at Pueblo due to that baggage. He has interviewed for a couple of jobs including Illinois State in the MAC and Montana State which is in the FCS with UNC but a much better program with better resources.

Point is that UNC isn't necessarily a step up from where he is right now. If he goes someplace it will be for a better job than UNC.
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What's the baggage?
 
Burrito Palazzo said:
What's the baggage?
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Back in about 2000 the police were called to his home on a domestic violence call.

Don't know the details but their were allegations about threats against his wife and daughter. Protection orders were issued and it went to court. He received a deferred judgement requiring classes and a couple years without any further legal issues. He satisfied those requirements and the case was discharged.

It is now closing in on 20 years since it happened and he has apparently had no further issues but I can understand this type of incident being a red flag on a person who is going to be the most public face of your university and one of if not the highest paid employee.
 
MtnBuff said:
Back in about 2000 the police were called to his home on a domestic violence call.

Don't know the details but their were allegations about threats against his wife and daughter. Protection orders were issued and it went to court. He received a deferred judgement requiring classes and a couple years without any further legal issues. He satisfied those requirements and the case was discharged.

It is now closing in on 20 years since it happened and he has apparently had no further issues but I can understand this type of incident being a red flag on a person who is going to be the most public face of your university and one of if not the highest paid employee.
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So he can't get a better job than ****ing Pueblo because of that, but Smashed Stevie Sarkisian keeps getting chances? Go figure.
 
onealcd said:
What makes you think he is capable to run a FCS program? Two years of high school coaching? Playing in the NFL?
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Playing in the NFL is like going to grad school for football. You are eating, breathing and living the game. You constantly study film and develop a very immersive understanding about how the game is played. However, in a different way than you'd expect. Eddie was a WR so he spent his time watching film of opposing defenses, even though he was an offensive player. He brings a knowledge of West Coast passing principles and an understanding of how to to exploit defenses. The average NFL player has forgotten more about football than the average Division I coach ever knew. Even most Division I basketball programs (like here at Colorado have coaching staffs that are very light on their expertise in Xs and Os and just rinse and repeat a basic philosophy of defending and rebounding). Coaches like the Dude just focus on power running game and stout defenses. Eddie is already a plus HC because he has a much more nuanced understanding of football than most coaches.

Take Mel Tucker. Tucker was in the SEC. Teams in the SEC aren't winning because they have elite plus coaching. Teams in the SEC are winning because they have elite plus players. They are running out 5-star athletes from Texas, Florida, and Pennsylvania against the 3/4 star athletes that everyone else gets. Nick Saban is not actually a football genius the way Walsh/Seifert/Shanahan/mini-me Shanahan/McVay are. Part of it in football is a self-fulfilling prophesy. People think Alabama is good, and Saban can recruit. So Alabama gets good players. It isn't the expertise, necessarily, of Alabama's Offensive Line coach, or the nuance the Wide Receiver's coach is instructing, its the elite gifted athletes they attract that gives them a competitive advantage.

Immediately, Eddie Mac has the NoCo program as the talk of prep football in Colorado, and everybody is now talking about NoCo and the opportunity to play for this Broncos legend. The fact that Eddie developed Max into an athlete that hung in the NFL for a couple of seasons, Christian into a generational type Glynn Milburn, and the other two into getting scholarships to play QB tells you that Eddie can develop players. He can scheme and understands the Xs and the Os beyond half the staffs in the Big Sky day one.

Don't ever be so impressed with what you think college football coaches know. Jon Embree when he was here at Colorado had an OC and a DC that had never done it before. They were college coaches though. The coordination during the Embree era at Colorado was a train wreck. Not because his OC and DC didn't have experience as coordinators, they just didn't have enough experience in football.

Eddie Mac already is creating a self-fulfilling prophesy in Greeley. He's going to run Bear buses to Greeley throughout the Front Range bringing up families on GameDays to see their kids play. They are going to create an invested community, he can talk the talk about how to get to the NFL even if most Big Sky players won't have the ability, height, weight, or quicks. If I'm a marginal athlete looking at playing in the RMAC Div II and I just want to keep playing, why not go to Greeley where at least I can say I have a chance to get some insight as to how to become an NFL athlete. I may not make it, but that's on me.

Valor was a top-drawer program. There are high school coaches in Texas more competent and with a more nuanced understanding of football than half the coaches in Division I. Never forget that coaching in football is like the emperors clothes, its all about the players. We think the coaches are brilliant but players make plays, not the coaches.

NoCo will out recruit the Big Sky guaranteed with the announcement of Eddie Mac. Eddie will be able to bring players from his NFL connections to come up to Greeley (not on staff) to teach these young kids. You aren't going to find that everywhere. He's not doing it for the money. But don't for a second believe this is a joke hire. Football is not rocket science. Its about matchups and exploiting the defensive formation and personnel.

Eddie wasn't a speedster (though the maternal grandfather of the boys was). He was a crafty receiver who was just fast enough. He employed gamesmanship like not wearing pads, cutting holes out your heels, wearing a skin tight jersey, anything to give him an edge. He'll approach coaching the same way.

Brilliant hire. The question is how long will Eddie Mac be there. His star burns bright. A lot brighter than Northern Colorado.
 
SINKRATZ said:
At a place like UNC, sure. If he’s really getting paid $190k a year this is the ultimate low risk/high reward type hire. Hell that may be a pay cut for him coming from Valor.

We’ve spent more time talking about UNC football in the last 12 hours than probably the entire history of AB before this so good for them. Honestly, what is the risk here? What’s the worst case scenario?
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So talking about Ed on this board is good for them, ok. He makes them worse is a good possibility and that's a bad case scenario. I hope he's a good hire for them and he has lots of success there, nothing in his background points that way though.
 
Buffapalooza said:
Playing in the NFL is like going to grad school for football. You are eating, breathing and living the game. You constantly study film and develop a very immersive understanding about how the game is played. However, in a different way than you'd expect. Eddie was a WR so he spent his time watching film of opposing defenses, even though he was an offensive player. He brings a knowledge of West Coast passing principles and an understanding of how to to exploit defenses. The average NFL player has forgotten more about football than the average Division I coach ever knew. Even most Division I basketball programs (like here at Colorado have coaching staffs that are very light on their expertise in Xs and Os and just rinse and repeat a basic philosophy of defending and rebounding). Coaches like the Dude just focus on power running game and stout defenses. Eddie is already a plus HC because he has a much more nuanced understanding of football than most coaches.

Take Mel Tucker. Tucker was in the SEC. Teams in the SEC aren't winning because they have elite plus coaching. Teams in the SEC are winning because they have elite plus players. They are running out 5-star athletes from Texas, Florida, and Pennsylvania against the 3/4 star athletes that everyone else gets. Nick Saban is not actually a football genius the way Walsh/Seifert/Shanahan/mini-me Shanahan/McVay are. Part of it in football is a self-fulfilling prophesy. People think Alabama is good, and Saban can recruit. So Alabama gets good players. It isn't the expertise, necessarily, of Alabama's Offensive Line coach, or the nuance the Wide Receiver's coach is instructing, its the elite gifted athletes they attract that gives them a competitive advantage.

Immediately, Eddie Mac has the NoCo program as the talk of prep football in Colorado, and everybody is now talking about NoCo and the opportunity to play for this Broncos legend. The fact that Eddie developed Max into an athlete that hung in the NFL for a couple of seasons, Christian into a generational type Glynn Milburn, and the other two into getting scholarships to play QB tells you that Eddie can develop players. He can scheme and understands the Xs and the Os beyond half the staffs in the Big Sky day one.

Don't ever be so impressed with what you think college football coaches know. Jon Embree when he was here at Colorado had an OC and a DC that had never done it before. They were college coaches though. The coordination during the Embree era at Colorado was a train wreck. Not because his OC and DC didn't have experience as coordinators, they just didn't have enough experience in football.

Eddie Mac already is creating a self-fulfilling prophesy in Greeley. He's going to run Bear buses to Greeley throughout the Front Range bringing up families on GameDays to see their kids play. They are going to create an invested community, he can talk the talk about how to get to the NFL even if most Big Sky players won't have the ability, height, weight, or quicks. If I'm a marginal athlete looking at playing in the RMAC Div II and I just want to keep playing, why not go to Greeley where at least I can say I have a chance to get some insight as to how to become an NFL athlete. I may not make it, but that's on me.

Valor was a top-drawer program. There are high school coaches in Texas more competent and with a more nuanced understanding of football than half the coaches in Division I. Never forget that coaching in football is like the emperors clothes, its all about the players. We think the coaches are brilliant but players make plays, not the coaches.

NoCo will out recruit the Big Sky guaranteed with the announcement of Eddie Mac. Eddie will be able to bring players from his NFL connections to come up to Greeley (not on staff) to teach these young kids. You aren't going to find that everywhere. He's not doing it for the money. But don't for a second believe this is a joke hire. Football is not rocket science. Its about matchups and exploiting the defensive formation and personnel.

Eddie wasn't a speedster (though the maternal grandfather of the boys was). He was a crafty receiver who was just fast enough. He employed gamesmanship like not wearing pads, cutting holes out your heels, wearing a skin tight jersey, anything to give him an edge. He'll approach coaching the same way.

Brilliant hire. The question is how long will Eddie Mac be there. His star burns bright. A lot brighter than Northern Colorado.
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Hey Eddie, I know that is you! Stop with your self promoting BS. If you were that good, you would have gotten past the quarterfinals with Valor this year. You got Sherman fired for less, you helicopter parent a**hole
 
Rob DeVere said:
So what would have been wrong with them hiring Wristen from Pueblo? A proven champion and consistent winner with CO recruiting lines already wel-laid out!

Yeah, I know Eddie had to recruit all those Valor kids away from Creek and Regis, but college is difframents!
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Boom!
 
ahoelsken said:
So he can't get a better job than ****ing Pueblo because of that, but Smashed Stevie Sarkisian keeps getting chances? Go figure.
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Combination of factors but yes that incident has been mentioned every time his name comes up for a job. There is also the consideration that schools have reached out to him and he hasn't been interested.

He graduated from the school (then called The University of Southern Colorado) and has strong connections to the area. He has a strong core of boosters and donors who make sure that he has what he needs to compete at that level. He has won a NC and gone deep into the playoffs multiple other times.

I know you are a UNC grad and fan and I don't want this to sound like I am busting on UNC because I want them to do well also but right now they don't have the resources and the support to compete. Wristen has fewer scholarships but better players including a number in recent years who have gone on to the NFL. Why would he want to take the UNC job.

Sarkisian has a track record at the P5 level that keeps people interested in him. That is something totally different than Wristen. I absolutely guarantee that if he wanted other D2 jobs or even a lot of FCS jobs he could have them. No offense but right now Pueblo is a better job than Greeley.
 
MtnBuff said:
Combination of factors but yes that incident has been mentioned every time his name comes up for a job. There is also the consideration that schools have reached out to him and he hasn't been interested.

He graduated from the school (then called The University of Southern Colorado) and has strong connections to the area. He has a strong core of boosters and donors who make sure that he has what he needs to compete at that level. He has won a NC and gone deep into the playoffs multiple other times.

I know you are a UNC grad and fan and I don't want this to sound like I am busting on UNC because I want them to do well also but right now they don't have the resources and the support to compete. Wristen has fewer scholarships but better players including a number in recent years who have gone on to the NFL. Why would he want to take the UNC job.

Sarkisian has a track record at the P5 level that keeps people interested in him. That is something totally different than Wristen. I absolutely guarantee that if he wanted other D2 jobs or even a lot of FCS jobs he could have them. No offense but right now Pueblo is a better job than Greeley.
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I've said this several times since the Ed McCaffrey hire became official-UNC did great by taking a flyer on him. If he works out, he's a big enough name locally to where they're going to get attention. If he doesn't, they're not any worse off than they are right now. Its a zero risk, high reward move-and they're reaping the benefits of it already just by getting the attention they've got over the last day and a half.

My point about Wristen is more in context of the CSU job-Wristen has won 9 of the last 11 RMAC championships, he's put guys into the NFL, and he's one of the thousands of names who would have that fanbase more excited than the dip they just hired does. They looked at guys like Kevin Wilson (player treatment issues at Indiana), Food Cart (involved in a Title 9 lawsuit at Tennessee), and Steve Addazio (multiple stories of petty behavior toward his former players)......but why no phone call to Wristen? You can't tell me he doesn't at least listen to CSU if they call.

Sarkisian's results as a head coach have been mediocre-Sure, UW was a mess when he took over there, but he's held two of the best jobs on the west coast during his career and he's won 9 games one time.
 
Buffsrock85 said:
Where do you live in Firestone? I want to run you over with my car.



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Booth Farms.

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Buffapalooza said:
Playing in the NFL is like going to grad school for football. You are eating, breathing and living the game. You constantly study film and develop a very immersive understanding about how the game is played. However, in a different way than you'd expect. Eddie was a WR so he spent his time watching film of opposing defenses, even though he was an offensive player. He brings a knowledge of West Coast passing principles and an understanding of how to to exploit defenses. The average NFL player has forgotten more about football than the average Division I coach ever knew. Even most Division I basketball programs (like here at Colorado have coaching staffs that are very light on their expertise in Xs and Os and just rinse and repeat a basic philosophy of defending and rebounding). Coaches like the Dude just focus on power running game and stout defenses. Eddie is already a plus HC because he has a much more nuanced understanding of football than most coaches.

Take Mel Tucker. Tucker was in the SEC. Teams in the SEC aren't winning because they have elite plus coaching. Teams in the SEC are winning because they have elite plus players. They are running out 5-star athletes from Texas, Florida, and Pennsylvania against the 3/4 star athletes that everyone else gets. Nick Saban is not actually a football genius the way Walsh/Seifert/Shanahan/mini-me Shanahan/McVay are. Part of it in football is a self-fulfilling prophesy. People think Alabama is good, and Saban can recruit. So Alabama gets good players. It isn't the expertise, necessarily, of Alabama's Offensive Line coach, or the nuance the Wide Receiver's coach is instructing, its the elite gifted athletes they attract that gives them a competitive advantage.

Immediately, Eddie Mac has the NoCo program as the talk of prep football in Colorado, and everybody is now talking about NoCo and the opportunity to play for this Broncos legend. The fact that Eddie developed Max into an athlete that hung in the NFL for a couple of seasons, Christian into a generational type Glynn Milburn, and the other two into getting scholarships to play QB tells you that Eddie can develop players. He can scheme and understands the Xs and the Os beyond half the staffs in the Big Sky day one.

Don't ever be so impressed with what you think college football coaches know. Jon Embree when he was here at Colorado had an OC and a DC that had never done it before. They were college coaches though. The coordination during the Embree era at Colorado was a train wreck. Not because his OC and DC didn't have experience as coordinators, they just didn't have enough experience in football.

Eddie Mac already is creating a self-fulfilling prophesy in Greeley. He's going to run Bear buses to Greeley throughout the Front Range bringing up families on GameDays to see their kids play. They are going to create an invested community, he can talk the talk about how to get to the NFL even if most Big Sky players won't have the ability, height, weight, or quicks. If I'm a marginal athlete looking at playing in the RMAC Div II and I just want to keep playing, why not go to Greeley where at least I can say I have a chance to get some insight as to how to become an NFL athlete. I may not make it, but that's on me.

Valor was a top-drawer program. There are high school coaches in Texas more competent and with a more nuanced understanding of football than half the coaches in Division I. Never forget that coaching in football is like the emperors clothes, its all about the players. We think the coaches are brilliant but players make plays, not the coaches.

NoCo will out recruit the Big Sky guaranteed with the announcement of Eddie Mac. Eddie will be able to bring players from his NFL connections to come up to Greeley (not on staff) to teach these young kids. You aren't going to find that everywhere. He's not doing it for the money. But don't for a second believe this is a joke hire. Football is not rocket science. Its about matchups and exploiting the defensive formation and personnel.

Eddie wasn't a speedster (though the maternal grandfather of the boys was). He was a crafty receiver who was just fast enough. He employed gamesmanship like not wearing pads, cutting holes out your heels, wearing a skin tight jersey, anything to give him an edge. He'll approach coaching the same way.

Brilliant hire. The question is how long will Eddie Mac be there. His star burns bright. A lot brighter than Northern Colorado.
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Holy ****. There is a lot of horse manure in this post, but calling Christian McCaffrey a "generational Glynn Milburn" is hilarious.
 
Buffapalooza said:
Playing in the NFL is like going to grad school for football. You are eating, breathing and living the game. You constantly study film and develop a very immersive understanding about how the game is played. However, in a different way than you'd expect. Eddie was a WR so he spent his time watching film of opposing defenses, even though he was an offensive player. He brings a knowledge of West Coast passing principles and an understanding of how to to exploit defenses. The average NFL player has forgotten more about football than the average Division I coach ever knew. Even most Division I basketball programs (like here at Colorado have coaching staffs that are very light on their expertise in Xs and Os and just rinse and repeat a basic philosophy of defending and rebounding). Coaches like the Dude just focus on power running game and stout defenses. Eddie is already a plus HC because he has a much more nuanced understanding of football than most coaches.

Take Mel Tucker. Tucker was in the SEC. Teams in the SEC aren't winning because they have elite plus coaching. Teams in the SEC are winning because they have elite plus players. They are running out 5-star athletes from Texas, Florida, and Pennsylvania against the 3/4 star athletes that everyone else gets. Nick Saban is not actually a football genius the way Walsh/Seifert/Shanahan/mini-me Shanahan/McVay are. Part of it in football is a self-fulfilling prophesy. People think Alabama is good, and Saban can recruit. So Alabama gets good players. It isn't the expertise, necessarily, of Alabama's Offensive Line coach, or the nuance the Wide Receiver's coach is instructing, its the elite gifted athletes they attract that gives them a competitive advantage.

Immediately, Eddie Mac has the NoCo program as the talk of prep football in Colorado, and everybody is now talking about NoCo and the opportunity to play for this Broncos legend. The fact that Eddie developed Max into an athlete that hung in the NFL for a couple of seasons, Christian into a generational type Glynn Milburn, and the other two into getting scholarships to play QB tells you that Eddie can develop players. He can scheme and understands the Xs and the Os beyond half the staffs in the Big Sky day one.

Don't ever be so impressed with what you think college football coaches know. Jon Embree when he was here at Colorado had an OC and a DC that had never done it before. They were college coaches though. The coordination during the Embree era at Colorado was a train wreck. Not because his OC and DC didn't have experience as coordinators, they just didn't have enough experience in football.

Eddie Mac already is creating a self-fulfilling prophesy in Greeley. He's going to run Bear buses to Greeley throughout the Front Range bringing up families on GameDays to see their kids play. They are going to create an invested community, he can talk the talk about how to get to the NFL even if most Big Sky players won't have the ability, height, weight, or quicks. If I'm a marginal athlete looking at playing in the RMAC Div II and I just want to keep playing, why not go to Greeley where at least I can say I have a chance to get some insight as to how to become an NFL athlete. I may not make it, but that's on me.

Valor was a top-drawer program. There are high school coaches in Texas more competent and with a more nuanced understanding of football than half the coaches in Division I. Never forget that coaching in football is like the emperors clothes, its all about the players. We think the coaches are brilliant but players make plays, not the coaches.

NoCo will out recruit the Big Sky guaranteed with the announcement of Eddie Mac. Eddie will be able to bring players from his NFL connections to come up to Greeley (not on staff) to teach these young kids. You aren't going to find that everywhere. He's not doing it for the money. But don't for a second believe this is a joke hire. Football is not rocket science. Its about matchups and exploiting the defensive formation and personnel.

Eddie wasn't a speedster (though the maternal grandfather of the boys was). He was a crafty receiver who was just fast enough. He employed gamesmanship like not wearing pads, cutting holes out your heels, wearing a skin tight jersey, anything to give him an edge. He'll approach coaching the same way.

Brilliant hire. The question is how long will Eddie Mac be there. His star burns bright. A lot brighter than Northern Colorado.
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If I recall correctly, Embree's OC had a long NFL career topped off by NFL coaching experience, A lot more than Ed M.
 
68buffs said:
So talking about Ed on this board is good for them, ok. He makes them worse is a good possibility and that's a bad case scenario. I hope he's a good hire for them and he has lots of success there, nothing in his background points that way though.
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He might make them worse??? They’ve won 7 games in the last 3 years and are getting beat by schools from the Dakotas and McNeese. If they get worse, there’s maybe a dozen people in Greely who would notice or care.
 
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