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Official 2025 Fall Camp Thread

ESPN yesterday: "Prior to a preseason scrimmage on Saturday, Colorado Buffaloes coach Deion Sanders revealed that his offensive line has been plagued by injuries in fall camp. It's unclear which players are injured, but Colorado's depth will likely be tested up front."

Injuries are part of the game. Texas Tech just lost Queinten Joyner the USC transfer projected to be their starting RB. He was a 4* top-100 transfer.
 
I don't understand ESPN's S&P at all.


Sure we replace TH, SS and 4 NFL WRs, but the they rank our D way down at 50. We returned a ton of talent on defense and supplemented via the portal. Our 2 deep is all Jrs and Srs except for 1. This for the team that led the B12 in sacks/TFL and returns their coordinator. They give us a -.2 on ST, when we added Buck for KO's, Mata returns, and Greaves does not seem to be much a drop-off from Vlasset. They say it is based on preseason rankings, but the Coaches gave us 12 votes, which puts us in the 40s. I just hate how this metric as it is so skewed to certain conferences and teams.

They have USC at 21, yet they have 11 frosh/sophs in their two deep at O, about the same on D. CU's team is Jrs and Srs. I think age and experience counts for something, look at BYU.
 
I don't understand ESPN's S&P at all.


Sure we replace TH, SS and 4 NFL WRs, but the they rank our D way down at 50. We returned a ton of talent on defense and supplemented via the portal. Our 2 deep is all Jrs and Srs except for 1. This for the team that led the B12 in sacks/TFL and returns their coordinator. They give us a -.2 on ST, when we added Buck for KO's, Mata returns, and Greaves does not seem to be much a drop-off from Vlasset. They say it is based on preseason rankings, but the Coaches gave us 12 votes, which puts us in the 40s. I just hate how this metric as it is so skewed to certain conferences and teams.

They have USC at 21, yet they have 11 frosh/sophs in their two deep at O, about the same on D. CU's team is Jrs and Srs. I think age and experience counts for something, look at BYU.
We lost both Safeties, both LBs, two starting EDGE, our primary NT, and our CB1. That 8/11 starters from last year gone.

I agree that we upgraded in many areas and we return a handful of guys who played a lot last year but weren’t starters, but the S&P rankings rely heavily on returning starters
 
We lost both Safeties, both LBs, two starting EDGE, our primary NT, and our CB1. That 8/11 starters from last year gone.

I agree that we upgraded in many areas and we return a handful of guys who played a lot last year but weren’t starters, but the S&P rankings rely heavily on returning starters
They rely on returning production. % tackles returned, %PBU returned, etc. You can loose starters, but if the backups played well and heavily, you won’t get dinged as hard. SP is legit unlike ESPN’s old FPI or whatever. None of these advanced metrics handle the portal era well.
 
I don't understand ESPN's S&P at all.


Sure we replace TH, SS and 4 NFL WRs, but the they rank our D way down at 50. We returned a ton of talent on defense and supplemented via the portal. Our 2 deep is all Jrs and Srs except for 1. This for the team that led the B12 in sacks/TFL and returns their coordinator. They give us a -.2 on ST, when we added Buck for KO's, Mata returns, and Greaves does not seem to be much a drop-off from Vlasset. They say it is based on preseason rankings, but the Coaches gave us 12 votes, which puts us in the 40s. I just hate how this metric as it is so skewed to certain conferences and teams.

They have USC at 21, yet they have 11 frosh/sophs in their two deep at O, about the same on D. CU's team is Jrs and Srs. I think age and experience counts for something, look at BYU.
The great thing about it is that we get to prove it on the field. My sense is that our OL and DL will be the strongest they have been under Coach Prime. That is a critical aspect of the team, given the skill players we need to replace.
 
ESPN yesterday: "Prior to a preseason scrimmage on Saturday, Colorado Buffaloes coach Deion Sanders revealed that his offensive line has been plagued by injuries in fall camp. It's unclear which players are injured, but Colorado's depth will likely be tested up front."
There’s a lot of disinformation going on ahead of this game coming from the coaches.
 
There’s a lot of disinformation going on ahead of this game coming from the coaches.
All I know is that if I was a CFB HC, every public word out of my mouth would be either a platitude, a statement of the obvious, hype to raise money/recruit/sell tickets/build an assistant's career, or disinformation to the opponent. You'd have to be a complete idiot to give an accurate description of the depth chart, injury report or game plan in a presser if you don't have to.
 
They rely on returning production. % tackles returned, %PBU returned, etc. You can loose starters, but if the backups played well and heavily, you won’t get dinged as hard. SP is legit unlike ESPN’s old FPI or whatever. None of these advanced metrics handle the portal era well.
Luckily, it makes betting possible.
 
All I know is that if I was a CFB HC, every public word out of my mouth would be either a platitude, a statement of the obvious, hype to raise money/recruit/sell tickets/build an assistant's career, or disinformation to the opponent. You'd have to be a complete idiot to give an accurate description of the depth chart, injury report or game plan in a presser if you don't have to.
I guess we will see on first availability reports if it’s true or just smoke.
 
This is the only season prediction that put us to top 20.

Immediately becomes my favorite media guy

https://NOPE/beta_rank_fb/status/1958311122102374540?t=FP8Ct-8EfpmYQEcJczXw-g&s=19
 
In Boulder, at altitude will help but Livingston needs to have one of his best games as a coordinator for CU to pull this off, IMO. Obviously have to stop the run, but we can't sit back in man coverage like we did vs NDSU last year and allow King to scramble for chunk plays. Hopefully our emphasis on faster, more athletic LBs pays off in that regard.
Seems there’s some speed at LB now. Lane discipline and resisting the urge to over pursue will be key.
 
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