Flat_Iron_Rising
Homebrew & Prime Time = HEAVEN
CFP clown show...
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Official CFP Selection Freakout Thread
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hawg1
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Conference championship is one of the five criteria used to rank comparable teams. Wins or being undefeated is not.
Big Jim
WTF?
Winning is not a criteria, but a loosly worded wild card point allows flexibility to make any choice they want.
For better or for worse, big time college football is largely regional. Folks in the south care more about this sport than in other regions. Attendance, ratings, program support, etc. all exceed what other parts of the country do. This is a business. In their current form, Alabama & the $EC are more relevant than F$U & the A-PCC.
Protocol is essentially when accretive meets silent commitment with some SCOOP mixed in.
hawg1
Well-Known Member
Wins is not a criteria. It’s not in the protocol. If it was Liberty would be 4.
b3buffs
Well-Known Member
Exactly. They are full of **** keeping them 3 and then using this excuse. Almost like they thought it was a get out of jail free card in the backpocket.
Irrelevant, bc transfer portal etc. for eliminated teams.
If they were in a playoff, then Georgia -6.5.
If Georgia and Bama played tomorrow I'd favor Georgia.
If your standard is always to default to Vegas then your CFP field should be Bama, UGa, Mich, tOSU.
You have to selectively favor W/L and Conf Champ, when it suits you to not have Michigan and Washington in the same bucket as FSU, Texas and Bama and somehow exclude tOSU and UGa, and explain the rankings that were published last week.
It's also cute that you take the committee at their word.
Medford M.
Well-Known Member
Stop defending "the protocol". They don't have one, and they've never stuck by it.
Medford M.
Well-Known Member
The missing player thing has to go. There's a hundred other dudes on that team that earned the spot.
hawg1
Well-Known Member
I’m not defaulting to Vegas. I just asked a question.
My default is comparing Bama and FSU according to the Committee protocol.
There are five criteria. Two favor Bama. One is not relevant. And they are equal on the other two.
This is how the Committee made their decision.
hawg1
Well-Known Member
There indeed is a protocol with criteria.
F$U was not a top 4 team after JTrav is out for the year. But, for optics, F$U were included because they remained undefeated. It was a low-stakes choice and was mostly irrelevant.
When the chips were down, the committee had to determine the “best” matchups for their teevee shows. At that stage, an F$U team who people feared would be pedestrian on offense was actually poor on offense, so the sentiment changed.
hawg1
Well-Known Member
Can we just compare the two teams using the Committee criteria? You take FSU. I’ll take Bama. Or I’ll do FSU. And you do Bama. Then we can be finished.
That is how you believe the committee made their decision, despite the fact that it is not consistent with how they ranked FSU last week.
hawg1
Well-Known Member
Manhattan explained that very well.
Do you want to take FSU or Bama against the criteria?
It is not about wins, but Georgia had a stranglehold on #1 the whole time. Quite frankly, Michigan had a good case for #1 after beating Ohio State. The criteria is so fluid from week to week.
It doesn't really matter. They were number 4. I could see how a Bama win over the #1 team, plus UT crushing Okie Lite, plus FSU looking inept on offense, could cause Bama and Texas to jump FSU.
To be honest, the inclusion of Alabama over FSU seems pretty straight-forward to me. You always seem to have reasonable takes. In this case, I think you just hate Alabama.
Manhattan explained it very well.
But his explanation is not at all a good defense of the committee. Quite the opposite actually.
It's not that Georgia is favored. It's that FSU is a 13-point underdog. Clearly, that shows they are not one of the top 4 teams at the moment.
hawg1
Well-Known Member
Who was in FSU’s group of three last week? I can’t recall.
Bama wasn’t. That comparison only became relevant this week given circumstances.
I hate Bama, but I also watch them a lot. They're a really good team this season, but this is a lifetime achievement recognition to put them at #4. Do you honestly think Ole Miss or Missouri would get that same bump?
That's not how the published committee protocol works.
You have to force FSU and Bama into the same bucket, and not have Washington or Michigan in that bucket for the factors that the committee says they consider to be relevant.
You already know that I think FSU is a slight dog to Bama.
If we ignore the committee's previous rankings and believe that motivated reasoning and SEC bias didn't get them to the direct comp, then using the committee's published factors, I take Bama's last two weeks over FSU's last two weeks by a slim margin, and then I say that with 3 weeks to modify their offense for Rodemaker it's basically a coinflip between Bama and FSU.
The FSU offense was not SUDDENLY worse off Saturday night, so why is the committee acting like that was the case? Stop doing weekly rankings if the criteria is as fluid as can be from week to week.
Flat_Iron_Rising
Homebrew & Prime Time = HEAVEN
Maybe they should put in the 4th and 31 protocol when playing a ****ty team. They should lose more influence for having their healthy starting quarterback in there as well.
If they just beat Georgia in a conference championship game and their only other loss was to the #3 team early in the season? I absolutely believe Ole Miss or Missouri would get that bump. It's not like FSU is Wake Forest.
hawg1
Well-Known Member
Let’s just use the criteria to compare. I don’t see why that is so hard.