ahoelsken
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I don't think that move works unless you're willing to spend on a stud OC.
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Official CU Head Coach Search Thread - Primetime
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Gary Patterson would be a disaster. I know people in FW and am not going to go into specifics, but his time at TCU, while successful, shall we say, had issues.
Why the **** would we want Ceal Berry helping make decisions for the future of the football program?
The University of Colorado has a very short list of former coaches and players in any sport, who were successful enough and are currently qualified enough to be part of big decisions for CUAD going forward. I wouldn't even want Barnett involved in a search committee for a new coach, let alone Ceal ****ing Berry. Can we stop with that nonsense?
The University of Colorado has a very short list of former coaches and players in any sport, who were successful enough and are currently qualified enough to be part of big decisions for CUAD going forward. I wouldn't even want Barnett involved in a search committee for a new coach, let alone Ceal ****ing Berry. Can we stop with that nonsense?
No. A thousand times no.
Why aren't you going to go into specifics? This is an anonymous message board and you don't need to cite your people's names.
Terra3407
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No More Retreads.
ahoelsken
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Tom Herman is technically a retread. You want to pass on him?
Wisconsin has won 10+ games 13 times over the last 29 seasons and has averaged 9 wins/year over that time frame. Suggesting that the last 25 (29) years of a program's history "is not what they are" is maybe the most absurdly hilarious comment I've heard in some time. It's like saying the last 20 years of CU football is an outlier and not what this program is and they are really a national title contender because they had a short blip of success in the 80s and early 90s...
They went 8-4 last year, but they weren't competitive with Notre Dame and Michigan and lost to Minnesota at the end of the year, which kept them out of the B1G CG. On top of that, they had a very underwhelming COVID season the year before and are now 2-3, with losses to Washington State, a blowout to Ohio State and got smoked by Illinois. Chryst was brought in to maintain the offensive style that has made Wisconsin what they are, but add the QB element to it, and he has failed at doing that.
Wisconsin isn't an Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, Clemson type of program and they never will be, but they are firmly in the second tier, have a fairly rabid fanbase and some big boosters who expect them to be in Indianapolis most years playing Ohio State or Michigan for the B1G title.
CU is not in a place to be THAT picky. Goodness.
Give me a proven coach, with a history of building a program up from scraps. Preferably one that has done it with institutional limitations.
No first time HC, no former Buff.
Give me a proven coach, with a history of building a program up from scraps. Preferably one that has done it with institutional limitations.
No first time HC, no former Buff.
I had only included Chip at UCLA because he was within a whisker of being fired at one time. Upon further reflection, I agree that he is safe with a 5-0 start to this season.
Admittedly, I am far away from Lawrence, however, I do know that Leipold has been passed over several times for a FBS job until Buffalo came around. He was on staff of Wisconsin and Nebraska. He has never stayed anywhere for only 1or 2 years after he was a GA at Wisconsin. My gut tells me that he is not leaving Kansas so soon after completely turning them around. There are some coaches who have loyalty to a school and feel that leaving after 2 years is not the right thing to do. If he wants to leave Kansas, it will be in a few years. I don't see him as the type to cash in immediately.
With that said, I do not blame Mel Tucker for leaving CU when he was offered $9 million. I don't think Mel would have left if he was only offered $3 million. Due to the huge increase that the Big 10 and SEC can pay, and the fact that minority coaches have been historically undervalued and appreciated, Mel had NO CHOICE but to take the Michigan State offer.
This is very true, I can attest from my own undergrad transfer to cu.
I transferred as a junior, and a number of courses wouldn't transfer, or wouldn't transfer at full credit.
"that class is 3 credit hours at CU, it doesn't matter if it covered more and they gave you 4 credit hours there, you only get 3 here."
I had several labs that were 2 that became 1, and some classes that went from 5 & 4 credit hours to 3. And some that didn't transfer at all. And this was coming from an engineering school that was more highly ranked than CU (even back then, when CU's rankings were higher).
Some have posited that it's a money thing (requiring more tuition payments to "make up" the classes), but my sense at the time, and now, is that it's an elitist attitude that there's no way another school could offer as good of courses as we do.
It's bull****, and flows from the top.
The "no former Buff" is a dumb restriction. What if Nick Saban was a CU graduate? or held a CU honorary degree of some sort? There are plenty of CU graduates that are excellent coaches. It doesnt mean that we should hire them, but it doesnt mean that we should cross them off the list.
and you still came to CU.... presumably to study AND ski
(not necessarily in that order?)
Yep! if it wasn't for my IB diploma from HS, I would have been 1 year behind when I transferred back middle of my sophomore year.
ESPN+ has an article by a B1G guy with some names not already mentioned here:
Donte Williams also might be an interesting choice if they're going to go after someone who is a great recruiter, but what if Grinch at HC and Williams as DC?
- USC DC Alex Grinch
- Okie Lite OC Kasey Dunn
- SJSU HC Brent Brennan
- USC DB coach Donte Williams
- Tulane HC Willie Fritz
- NDSU coach Matt Entz
- BYU OC Aaron Roderick
Donte Williams also might be an interesting choice if they're going to go after someone who is a great recruiter, but what if Grinch at HC and Williams as DC?
The only person who is being talked about with CU ties is Ryan Walters, he would be a first time HC. I am sure Ryan is going to be a solid HC someday. I don't want him learning how to be a HC here. Anyone else would be a hire BECAUSE of their CU ties. Don't want it.
slystone
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a couple of updates
frontofficesports.com
wisco shopping list of potential coaches
badgerswire.usatoday.com
Big Ten, Big 12 Could Usher Out Pac-12
As the Big Ten looks to grow, those in the industry are reportedly concerned about the Pac-12's sustainability.
frontofficesports.com
wisco shopping list of potential coaches
Ten candidates to be Wisconsin football's next head coach
Who will be Wisconsin’s next head coach?
badgerswire.usatoday.com
you are definitely cross posting under this coaching thread. That article should be in the Conference Realignment Thread because it gives a great current update on the state of the Pac-12.a couple of updates
Big Ten, Big 12 Could Usher Out Pac-12
As the Big Ten looks to grow, those in the industry are reportedly concerned about the Pac-12's sustainability.
wisco shopping list of potential coaches
Ten candidates to be Wisconsin football's next head coach
Who will be Wisconsin’s next head coach?
We have missed this kind of level-headed thread monitoring, welcome back.
i must apologize to my fellow fans here for my Ceal Barry post. thank you for not banning me.
She will always be a legend in WBB but the C-unit was the best thing Bohn did and something that should be supported 100%.
for that reason, in regards to recommending her as part of the search committee……
Nonsense stopped. But I still think Tad Boyle should play a part.
I think Tad is one on the short list that would be qualified to be part of the search. I wouldn't mind having him sit in on interviews and providing feedback based on his impressions of what's important to said candidate, the candidate's plan to achieve success, his ability, desire and perspective on recruiting, etc.
I was on the 6 1/2 year plan (and I can only blame the 1/2 year on transfer credits - the other two years were lost to too many great powder days).and you still came to CU.... presumably to study AND ski
(not necessarily in that order?)
Tad Boyle is the only guy at that entire place who knows how to build a program and achieve a level of success that can be sustained. It’s nothing short of miraculous that he’s even still here. Hell yes he should be part of the hiring team. In fact, remove Phil and RG from the team and just let Tad run the whole thing.
Best post of the day. Or week. Or month…… or this past 15 years of football misery.
I am in the same boat, I just know that he's a very hot candidate right now with ties to two deep(ish) pocket programs with HC vacancies.
His contract at KU runs through 2027 and is $16.8M total (roughly $2.8M AAV). 5 years ago, Nebraska paid Frost $5M/yr AAV on a 7 year contract. Paul Chryst got a raise to $5.25M before last season. Since then, the B1G signed that enormous rights deal. It's not out of the question to think they could offer Leipold 5 years at $7M per year and more than double his salary. That would be pretty hard to say no to.
There seems to be no doubt that Rick George is running this search or that there's any heat on him and PDS seems to be involved as well ....
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