Just sayin…in one instance, Utah is cream of the crop. In other, 2nd tier. Idunno. Oh, the first post is yours.
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Official realignment thread - SEC formally invites OU and Texas to join the conference in 2025
Just sayin…in one instance, Utah is cream of the crop. In other, 2nd tier. Idunno. Oh, the first post is yours.
Preseason power ratings. About as reliable as a Scott Frost mistress.
hawg1
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If you were Vegas, how would you set the line? What method would you use?
and I agree with you. Congrats on 3-0
Thanks man!
I would use my eye because you can’t compare a G5 with a P5 in any analytical analysis. Would you say P5’s have the ability to get better recruits as a whole than G5’s because of P5 affiliation?
Vegas has everything at their disposal. So a little of everything. Think Utah would be a slight favorite
In the grand scheme of things, yes, Utah is for sure second tier. For 2021, Utah is a tier one Pac 12 program. Hawg failed to initially qualify his assertion with a short or long term perspective
hawg1
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PAC tiers would be a good thread.
hawg1
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Erudite.
UCF would be a FAR more dangerous P5 team than Boise State and it isn’t even close.
The Big 12 isn’t looking to add App state. That is a false equivalence
Potentially KSU, ISU, Okie light, Baylor, and TCU in any given year.
UCF and Cincy as P5 teams, could recruit better than UW
I first like how hawg is using this year as his basis for the better teams when OU and Texas are still in the big 12.
TCU, okie state and baylor all become G5 schools once this split happens. Adding UCF, Cincy, BYU and houston doesn’t change that it just makes it a G5 super league.
BYU is a solid program but will always be limited by their religious affiliation and rules.
TCU, okie state and baylor all become G5 schools once this split happens. Adding UCF, Cincy, BYU and houston doesn’t change that it just makes it a G5 super league.
BYU is a solid program but will always be limited by their religious affiliation and rules.
hawg1
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No. You are wrong.
I made it clear. My comparison is a new B12 conference that includes C, H, UCF and BYU.
I await your 1-12 comparison this year and into the future.
I have you five programs in the pac 12 that are better than anything the big 12 has. If UCF was better than these pac 12 programs guess what, they would be in a power five conference right now. They aren’t. Same goes for Cincy. You, my friend, have no idea what you are talking about with this and your anti-pac 12 bias is clearly showing.
Mods - is there a way to ignore posts that include “UCF” and “Cincy”. Asking for a friend.
DeNiro
My Dixie Wrecked
Someone get this man MS Paint and just watch the magic happen.
What P5 money are you referring to?
Exactly, that conference would bring in less than 20 mil per team.
hawg1
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Give me the 5 programs netter than Iowa State.
hawg1
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That’s a considerable step up from where Houston is today. It will be more than 20.
Hawg is just relaying everything Andy staples tweets, who is by far the biggest SEC homer on the internet. Andy is now trying to say that the AAC is tougher than the big 10 west. I know that division hasn’t been great but are we just going to gloss over two great programs in Wisconsin and Iowa that would run the AAC without any effort? Wisconsin is actually on the cusp of becoming one of those 10 or so teams in the country that can win a national championship based on their prior performance and the way their recruiting is improving year in and year out (basically the big ten equivalent of Utah) and Iowa has been a fantastic program for a long long time.
well if you are Andy staples or hawg you have to trash everything that isn’t the SEC and he is now using the AAC as his weapon.
well if you are Andy staples or hawg you have to trash everything that isn’t the SEC and he is now using the AAC as his weapon.
Iowa state? Are you serious? The big 12 bottom dweller for the vast majority of their college football all history. There are probably 7-8 pac 12 programs that are better than Iowa state. They are the equivalent of OSU, WSU and Arizona.
they are an awesome story the last few seasons and they have an amazing coach who turned down a bunch of money from the NFL to stay there. That is like hitting the lottery in terms of them as a program.
So let me get this straight. The remaining big 12 programs are projected to get a little under 20 million a year by themselves, and you think adding 3 programs from a conference that generates a little north of 7 million a year per team is going to mean more than 20 million per year for every team? That is some funky math you have going on there.
hawg1
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I missed Andy’s pods this week. Off grid. I’ll listen.
You just don’t want to do the comparison do you?
I think the P12 is weak, yes. The historical data support my contention.
hawg1
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Yes. It supports my original contention.