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Other games weekend of 10/18-10/20

Buffnik said:
He didn't hit him in the head or neck.

I don't think we want to take out the ability to hit a receiver while he's trying to catch a pass, do we? It was a big hit into his shoulder. That's football and there's no concussion safety issue there. It can't be a penalty and for this to still be football.
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Ok?

 
14er said:
Ok?

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If you watch the replay from the other side, the helmet never gets near the WR's helmet. Straight into his left shoulder pad. I thought the same thing you did until I saw that replay.
 
I understand the concern, and the fear of ambulance chasing lawyers, but I am getting sick of the frequency of lightning and other weather delays.

Just wondering, prior to all these delays exactly how many fans or players were killed by lightning sitting in a football stadium?

If you think about it logically most stadiums have steel structures. The fans are below the top of that structure. Should lighting actually strike it would virtually always go to a flag pole, light pole or support, or other high metal object then be carried down through the structural support to the ground.
 
MtnBuff said:
I understand the concern, and the fear of ambulance chasing lawyers, but I am getting sick of the frequency of lightning and other weather delays.

Just wondering, prior to all these delays exactly how many fans or players were killed by lightning sitting in a football stadium?

If you think about it logically most stadiums have steel structures. The fans are below the top of that structure. Should lighting actually strike it would virtually always go to a flag pole, light pole or support, or other high metal object then be carried down through the structural support to the ground.
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Are you serious?
 
patebuff said:
Are you serious?
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I am serious.

I am all in favor of reasonable precautions. I am not in favor of overreactions. Sure there is a "chance" of somebody getting hit by lightning. There is also a chance of somebody falling on the steps going in and out due to the delay and suffering a serious injury. There is risk in changing traffic patterns and having thousands of people crossing streets to get to the stadium.

A reasonable question. In say the last one hundred years, how many people have been hit by lightning in a football stadium? It is reasonable to ask if the threat is real or imagined.
 
MtnBuff said:
I am serious.

I am all in favor of reasonable precautions. I am not in favor of overreactions. Sure there is a "chance" of somebody getting hit by lightning. There is also a chance of somebody falling on the steps going in and out due to the delay and suffering a serious injury. There is risk in changing traffic patterns and having thousands of people crossing streets to get to the stadium.

A reasonable question. In say the last one hundred years, how many people have been hit by lightning in a football stadium? It is reasonable to ask if the threat is real or imagined.
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Hold my beer, Michigan St lawyers.
 
Lincoln Riley O is a thing of absolute beauty.

So many concepts to borrow.

TEs don’t matter any more.
 
TSchekler said:
Lol even if one fan/player gets killed by lightning, it’s reason to delay it. You’re advocating for putting players in a position to potentially be killed, and regardless of how small the chances are, that’s insane.
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IIRC, multiple plane crashes (okie light) and bus crashes (Canadian youth hockey) have killed college athletes. If we adopted your logic, college, or all life activities should cease to exist. You can’t bubble wrap life.
 
MtnBuff said:
I am serious.

I am all in favor of reasonable precautions. I am not in favor of overreactions. Sure there is a "chance" of somebody getting hit by lightning. There is also a chance of somebody falling on the steps going in and out due to the delay and suffering a serious injury. There is risk in changing traffic patterns and having thousands of people crossing streets to get to the stadium.

A reasonable question. In say the last one hundred years, how many people have been hit by lightning in a football stadium? It is reasonable to ask if the threat is real or imagined.
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These are the deaths from lightning this year. Because of precautions, we haven’t had any people die from lightning at stadia. Seems like that’s a good status quo.

Sometimes people are struck by lightning playing in a field. Spartan Stadium does not have a dome. An easily mitigated risk to another person’s life vs your personal enjoyment doesn’t seem like a debate to me.

https://www.weather.gov/safety/lightning-fatalities
 
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rosstr said:
IIRC, multiple plane crashes (okie light) and bus crashes (Canadian youth hockey) have killed college athletes. If we adopted your logic, college, or all life activities should cease to exist. You can’t bubble wrap life.
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Teams have to travel to get places. That’s a “risk” that has to be taken. Playing a game trough a lightning storm is not a requirement when you can simply delay the game an hour or two and not expose anyone to the potential of getting struck by lightning.
 
rosstr said:
IIRC, multiple plane crashes (okie light) and bus crashes (Canadian youth hockey) have killed college athletes. If we adopted your logic, college, or all life activities should cease to exist. You can’t bubble wrap life.
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Oh c'mon, what he's advocating is common sense. You're attempting to make it sound radical and it's not.
 
TSchekler said:
Teams have to travel to get places. That’s a “risk” that has to be taken. Playing a game trough a lightning storm is not a requirement when you can simply delay the game an hour or two and not expose anyone to the potential of getting struck by lightning.
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I don’t view the situations as dissimilar. As another example, a couple college athletes have been paralyzed and/or killed while playing. Why even play then? All risks can be considered reasonably preventable.

Not saying they should play through lightning storms, however there are trends to a level of ‘over-protection’ that holds the vast majority of probabilities hostage in favor of the incredibly rare freak occurrence.

It does seem that there is exponentially increasing amount of lightning delays.
 
rosstr said:
I don’t view the situations as dissimilar. As another example, a couple college athletes have been paralyzed and/or killed while playing. Why even play then? All risks can be considered reasonably preventable.

Not saying they should play through lightning storms, however there are trends to a level of ‘over-protection’ that holds the vast majority of probabilities hostage in favor of the incredibly rare freak occurrence.

It does seem that there is exponentially increasing amount of lightning delays.
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We can agree to disagree because I find this take by you and Mtn ridiculous.
 
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