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Pac-12 expansion is now inevitable
- Thread starter Duff Man
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Now if we can get some of these people to watch. I wonder if advertisers are taking viewing demographics into account. Pac might not be able to deliver as many eyeballs, but those eyeballs actually have disposable income.
Texas politics might be factor into Texas college sports? You don't say!
That disposable income of viewers is a big deal. WWE got huge ratings for its big weekly event. But the advertisers were things like Slim Jim. Doesn't command the kind of ad revenue of a lower-rated NFL broadcast that's attracting Lincoln.
You can notice the difference when watching the Pac12 Network. More adds for BMW, less for Busch Lite.
Diluted if they are moving from Big Ten/Big 12 country and watching those games.
Just about everyone in the PAC 12 footprint moved from Big Ten, Big 12 or Big East country. They assimilate.
It's not really possible with the candidates. The only way they could hurt the PAC is by adding BYU and CSu/AFA.
What about the legends and the leaders.
UH and Cinncy, CSU and BYU
Makes sense, but mostly from a geography standpoint. They said geography wasn't going to drive this. I think the most value is probably in UCF after UH and Cincy. BYU, of course. Memphis is up there, as is Boise State. Even USF. Or UConn. It's hard for me to see since their best argument over the others is that they're a geographic connector between KSU and BYU, while the Big 12 explicitly stated that it doesn't care about that.
I think what will be very telling is whether the B12 extends their GoR agreement as part of this expansion effort. If they add teams with no adjustment to the existing GoR then I'm going to assume this is an effort to maximize revenue until Texas and Oklahoma have sucked the last drop of possible money out of the B12's dying corpse before moving on to greener pastures. Maybe if you're being charitable you could also say it gives them the chance to provide the left behinds with a slightly more stable framework to try carry on without them. I could see that plan appealing to the league since its not like they have a much of a reputation for forethought and planning.
Listened to the most recent Audible podcast from Mandel and Feldman. They had Pete Thamel on as a guest and he brought up the point that just because the TV deal has a pro rata clause for new members doesn't mean that they have to give the newbies an equal share. I could totally see OU agreeing to this plan to get them close to SEC money in the short term before bailing at the first opportunity.
Listened to the most recent Audible podcast from Mandel and Feldman. They had Pete Thamel on as a guest and he brought up the point that just because the TV deal has a pro rata clause for new members doesn't mean that they have to give the newbies an equal share. I could totally see OU agreeing to this plan to get them close to SEC money in the short term before bailing at the first opportunity.
Memphis is highly underrated in this situation and I am surprised people are sleeping on them. Non saturated sports market with good recruiting grounds, corporate backing above any of the other schools, good geopraphy, and a good basketball program to go along with the big 12 teams.
Good point. Break the conference and the buyouts go bye-bye.
ScottyBuff
Well-Known Member
The Big XII hopes to add Texas Longhorn football in by 2017.
What's to get? How many times do I have to point out the obvious?
There are two teams that would be accretive. Neither is interested. Is that some kind of foreign language or something? Is there something about that statement that is hard to comprehend? Crying about being left behind is fine, but understand that's all you're doing - crying.
I can freely admit that I see other conferences making moves. I also can look at the landscape and realize that those options are not available to the PAC 12.
There are two teams that would be accretive. Neither is interested. Is that some kind of foreign language or something? Is there something about that statement that is hard to comprehend? Crying about being left behind is fine, but understand that's all you're doing - crying.
I can freely admit that I see other conferences making moves. I also can look at the landscape and realize that those options are not available to the PAC 12.
I think the point is that Scott should be working to make those parties interested. Even if they continually brush him off, he HAS to try until the landscape is settles. Adding Texas and/or OU would be huge in terms of exposure, DirecTV, and population base in another time zone and that cannot be ignores.
You keep stating that "neither are interested" as a declaration of fact. Do you have insight into the thoughts of the Regents, Presidents, Athletic Directors, Deans, Faculty, Coaches and Fans at UT and OU that the rest of us do not? I mean, UT had exploratory talks with the Pac about joining in 1994 and again in 2010. Similar for OU, with the addition of petitioning in 2011 to join with OSU. But for some reason you feel that there is zero interest and a complete non-starter for either of these schools to consider joining the Pac. I'm curious as to why you have so much certainty.
Sackman's daily anti-expansion rant is directed towards anyone willing to listen (or keep going in circles.)
He knows this to be a matter of fact the same way he knows that Texas politicians don't have any say in Houston getting into the Big 12.
Oh, please. I don't have to be on the inside to know that. It's pretty obvious.