hell no, it was delicious.
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Sandusky update (more evidence against Joe P)
- Thread starter Buffnik
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Too soon? :huh:
Shouldn't the bear be wearing Depends?
well, that depends
So, I'm thinking that the best response for Penn State right now should be to completely suspend the football program. Honor the scholarships for the players that still want to stay at the school, and help the players who want to go elsewhere and play to do so. I am pretty sure there are no "sit out a year" transfer rules if your school has dropped the sport, so there wouldn't be an issue with that.
Notice I wrote "suspend," not "eliminate." They should spend the next 2 or 3 years designing and setting up a new program from the ground up, and this time, they should actually do it the right way. In the meantime, they should encourage their season ticket holders to send at least some of the money they were spending on tickets/donations to a charity for abused children.
Notice I wrote "suspend," not "eliminate." They should spend the next 2 or 3 years designing and setting up a new program from the ground up, and this time, they should actually do it the right way. In the meantime, they should encourage their season ticket holders to send at least some of the money they were spending on tickets/donations to a charity for abused children.
That sounds great and all, but it won't happen. They have conference scheduling obligations that need to be met. They have contracts with vendors, etc.
The bear or the poor kid who's backside got reamed? Maybe in bad taste, but it underscores the pure evil and depravity of the foul acts of a guy who should no longer be wasting oxygen on this planet. Honestly, I think the coward enablers who sold children's souls so they could protect their FB team are no better....
josef
Club Member
While I personally think it would be interesting to see this type of penalty (I am too young to have experienced first hand what happened at SMU) I do not see much reason for it. Everyone involved will be removed from the system. A good portion of them will have criminal charges. What does shutting down the football program for a couple of years only to rebuild it really accomplish? Not trying to start a huge debate here but I just dont see the value in it. It really only harms people who did nothing wrong to begin with.
L Buff
Commissar of the Albuffs Collective Left
That's what Jerry said....
This and the absolute lack of instituional control that lead to where they are today is about as bad a case as has been uncovered in NCAA history. Payments to athletes or recruiting violations pale in comparison to what has taken place at PSU. I am not sure how they are not going to be able to drop the biggest penalty in history on this intstitution.
I agree..... but you think any institution that just fires the offenders should get off without punishment? PSU, IMO, created an environment for this entire thing to foster - mostly to protect athletics. I think the punishment needs to be levied to show athletics should never been protected at the expense of criminal behavior.
I was on the fence as far as the NCAA getting involved, but I've been sliding towards the belief that the NCAA should get involved with the AD aspects of all this.
CUFan
Welcome back
Not disagreeing with you at all here. That will happen to the individuals but there will be a penalty for PSU as well. I am beginning to think it will be the death penalty.
I think covering up criminal behavior to protect the FB team or it's coaches is lack of institutional control. No different than OU during the Charles "Cocaine" Thompson era, or other episodes. Now, can the NCAA establish the crimes were covered up, at least to a substantial degree, to benefit the FB or AD as a whole? That would be the question as to whether NCAA sanction would be appropriate. You would have to directly tie the cover up and continuing criminal behavior to the AD. In this case, I think you can, but I can see how others view it as a purely criminal act by a sick pervert and his cronies who were to cowardly or too perverted themselves to see the situeation for what is was...the worst kind of abuse there is. As far as I am concerned, anybody who abuses kids, and som of the most vulnerable ones around at that, the way Jerry the Molester did ought to suffer...and suffer badly. I'll leave it to you imagination.
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I dont know if anything will come of it but I read somewhere that Penn St is gonna have to respond to questions from the NCAA Prez. I cant remember where the hell I read it. This is supposed to take place at the "appropriate time" whenever the hell that is, no telling with the NCAA. Not surprised by any of this really, every question I had about how the hell this could go on for so long got answered. Still makes me sick to my stomach and pisses me off. Whatever the living enablers get, they deserve.
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josef
Club Member
Alright, I am on board. Lets bury them. Probably because of past experiences I usually view these teams (PSU football) as a collection of young men and their coaches and not in terms of the whole institutions (Penn State University). When looking at it as a whole I do believe that something needs to be done.
I definitely think that if penalties come down, then PSU players should be able to transfer with no penalty
jahbrahakala
Member
HEY.... THAT IS MY MONEY you are talking about....
Nike to take JoePa's name off childcare center. Statement from Nike CEO Mark Parker: "I have been deeply saddened by the news coming out of this investigation at Penn State. It is a terrible tragedy that children were unprotected from such abhorrent crimes. With the findings released today, I have decided to change the name of our child care center at our World Headquarters. My thoughts are with the victims and the Penn State community."
Can you show me the NCAA regulation against having assistant coaches molest boys in locker room showers? As much as this situation is repugnant, the NCAA doesn't have much of a dog in this fight. I don't see where any NCAA rules have been broken. The NCAA isn't about regulating human decency, nor should they be, if you think about it. They rightly leave that up to the authorities, who appear to be doing their job at this point.
dply
Doble hoja
Is Nike Childcare center another name for a sweatshop?
L Buff
Commissar of the Albuffs Collective Left
ymssr
This is it in a nutshell.
Nothing can undo the horror of what has already happened. The only thing we can do now is to try to comfort the victims and send a clear message that this should never happen again. Unfortunately if there is no real and substantial penalty then there is no strong message to those who would put their program or their organization in front of the lives of the innocent.
No, but I'm sure there are some regulations about criminal behavior by athletic staff and criminal coverups in there somewhere.