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The 2021-2022 Coaching Carousel
- Thread starter DeNiro
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I would find it extremely amusing if Tucker left MSU after two years for LSU
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Don’t ever let it be said that the CU job is a coach killer. Talk about a springboard!!
What you don't have to pay your coach the full contract if he's fired, what is this craziness?
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
That actually doesn’t look like that great of a deal for MSU. Tucker is waaaaay more expensive to fire right now than Dorrell and his buyout isn’t that huge.
His buyout dropped from $6m in year one to $2.5m right now. Tell me with a straight face that’s a guy who is in East Lansing for the long haul.
I know you are right.
I still cannot fathom how we got where we are.
Melvin leaves for greener pastures, fine. Going after "name" coaches and then settling on HCKD. I have no idea who was really available. I have no idea how the negotiations with HCKD went, but how you guarantee the contract with no out for the University baffles me. Arky had a buyout provision in favor of the University if their new HC, whoever he is, performed poorly. The worse the team did, the less the University owed. U of Miami has a similar deal with Manny Diaz and that seems to be the trend.
Maybe HCKD was the only HC candidate, but it just looks like RG rolled over. So, we have to hope HCKD can do what he has never done, make a team substantially better than it was when he found it. He is not going anywhere anytime soon. I have seen some bad FB over the past 15 years, and what I see now is pretty close to as bad as I have seen. It is very discouraging.
Tucker’s agent must be fantastic. Two contracts that make him tough to fire but relatively easy to skip town if a better opportunity comes up.
Yeah. He had no real leverage and the UGA defense has gotten better since he left.
MSU playing in the BIG championship game would be perfect and I think LSU would look very hard here. Would be amazing
I was thinking Aranda
That's an interesting call. People talk about Joe Brady, but Aranda leaving was a huge loss as well.
He is a name USC should seriously consider IMO.
I'd say they have the best defense in the country.
This- occasionally at every school the "wrong" administration is hired that is at odds with the AD, and a power struggle ensues. See what's happened at USC, where the president was pretty determined to bring the AD to heel.
At Colorado back in the early part of this century, the AD lost and since then it's been pretty clear that there are bright line limitations for the AD and specifically the football program. No one in the admin above the AD since that time has viewed a strong football program as a marketing asset to the school, and so these restrictions and limitations are still in place. It's pretty clear that this systemic stuff is a big reason that MT left.
What's sad to me is that my perception is also that RG has decided that he loves his life living in Boulder near his grandkids, so he's pretty much given up fighting for any sort of change and it shows with the KD hire.
What puzzles me is that Benson didn't see this and do anything to change it- he strikes me as a guy who'd get this.
The only hope here is that the next president hire is someone who's at least sympathetic to the AD.
DeNiro
My Dixie Wrecked
If that happens does he just give his staff a raise or does he hire a big boy football staff?
Benson was hyper focused on the develop of our health facilities out in Aurora.
The noise from donors finally got loud enough he interceded after a decade of CU suckitude in 2018. That resulted in Tucker getting hired.
Then he left.
I really hope it doesn't take the new President that long to figure this **** out, but we have zero continuity since Hank Brown (edit: Mark Kennedy!) was hired and run off a year later.
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Hank Brown was President at CU for three years. 2005-2008.
Kennedy, Brown - whatever!
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
He's a Sexton client isn't he?
Tucker will either get a raise at MSU to $9 mill a year or go to LSU for $10 mill a year.
win win situation
win win situation
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
hahahahahaha the LSU AD can't be stupid enough to pay a coach with one winning season more than Saban-can he?
Tucker will undoubtedly be one of the hottest targets for bigger programs, short of a second half collapse this year.
Next week vs Michigan will say a lot
I think someone like Mike Denbrock at Cincy is similar to a Mel Tucker as a later in life coaching hire that could be a star
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Define collapse. They're going to lose to tOSU and PSU in my opinion. You're exactly right on the Michigan game.