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The 2021-2022 Coaching Carousel

DeNiro said:
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I know that Temple's gotten absolutely raided for the coaches they've had that built such a successful G5 program there, but it's still pretty shocking how quickly they went back to being bad again like they were in the 80s & 90s. Such a strong recruiting ground when you can tap into PA, NJ and a bit of MD without having to go more than 100 miles for most of your recruits, so I think it can be turned back around quickly if they made a good hire.
 
Buffnik said:
I know that Temple's gotten absolutely raided for the coaches they've had that built such a successful G5 program there, but it's still pretty shocking how quickly they went back to being bad again like they were in the 80s & 90s. Such a strong recruiting ground when you can tap into PA, NJ and a bit of MD without having to go more than 100 miles for most of your recruits, so I think it can be turned back around quickly if they made a good hire.
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Drayton is a pretty strong recruiter so I’d imagine that he has a decent rolodex.
 
The Carousel begins to wind down Update

Open jobs:


Idaho- Paul Petrino out. (h/t SewallBeach)

Maine- HC Nick Charlton going to UCONN as OC. (h/t DeNiro)

Secondary Market-

none

Filled Jobs:

ND- Another heavyweight. Brian Kelly kicks Lucky the Leprechaun in the nuts and leaves with little to no notice. (h/t Jens, BCS, Carolina) DC Bryan Freeman, gets the gig (h/t DeNiro)

OU- Riley off to LA. , Brent Venables, in (h/t CUAviator Serenity Jens and DeNiro) Ole Miss OC Jeff Lebby to follow.

LSU- Ed O out. (h/t Carolina Buff), apparently when Ed O isn't covering up sexual assaults and turning in unsatisfactory W-L records, he is propositioning random women at gas stations, unfortunately, the last lady of the pump was an LSU muckety-muck's wife. (h/t 14er). Ed O's buyout is $17M (h/t Creebuzz), In a surprising move ND HC Brian Kelly goes to the bayou. (h/t Jens BCS and Carolina).

UW- Jimmy Lake fired. (h/t DeNiro, Serenity, Duff) $9.9Million payout. Kalen DeBoer, fmr. Fresno St. HC named HC (h/t DeNiro and BuffBronco)

USC- The big one. (h/t Deniro, also check Jens' USC Fires Clay Helton and Lincoln Riley megathreads). Mike Bohn swipes Lincoln Riley from OU (h/t Jens) DC Alex Grinch comes along (h/t Serenity/DeNiro), Kliff Kingsbury (h/t Jens), maybe Leach (h/t Jalapeno) DL Coach So'to out. (h/t Serenity)

Miami- Manny Diaz fired (h/t Slider) Mario Christobal (h/t Alfred91) in.

Florida- Dan Mullen is out. (h/t CUAviator) Greg Know interim (h/ DeNiro) Billy Napier, Louisiana HC hired (h/t Carolina/DeNiro)

VT- Hokie dances in the streets, Justin Fuente shown the door (h/t Jens). (h/t DeNiro) PSU DC Brent Fry is the guy.

Ohio- Tim Albin gets the job (h/t ahoelsken).

Louisiana- Napier off to Gainesville, Michael Desormeaux hired from within (h/t DeNiro)

Georgia Southern- Bold move and hired Clay Helton (h/t Alabaster Yak)

Texas Tech- Bailer AHC and LB coach Joey McGuire hired (h/t DeNiro) OC Sonny Cumbie retained (h/t DeNiro), WKU OC Zach Kittley the new OC (h/t DeNiro) Tim DeRuyter in as DC (h/t slider).

UCONN- Randy Edsall, Out. (h/t Deniro) Fmr. UCLA HC Jim Mora in (h/t DeNiro and CUAViator) Maine HC tagging along as OC (h/t DeNiro)

TCU- Gary Patterson gets the heave ho. (h/t BCS and Duff). TCU does a coaching drive by on SMU and snatches up Sonny Dykes. (h/t Carolina) A little bit of insider flavor, had a sit down with some TCU insiders over Thanksgiving, Patterson was told to rearrange his staff and let some AC's go, he declined, in a, shall we say, colorful manner. Two days later he was fired unceremoniously. Overplayed his hand. UPDATE: fmr. Buff Chidera Uzo-Diribe DL coach. (h/t Alabaster Yak)

SMU- Wastes no time hiring Rhett Lashlee, fmr. Miami OC (h/t DenIro)

WSU- Nick Rolovich fired for cause over vaccination status. (h/t BCS) Interim Jake Dickert in (h/t Sewall)

NMSU- Doug Martin out. (h/t DeNiro) Jerry Kill seizes the job (h/t Carolina)

Jacksonville St.- Fmr, WVU, Michigan, AZ HC, and ULM OC Rich Rodriguez gets the gig (h/t DeNiro)

La Tech- Skip Holtz fired (h/t DeNiro) Sonny Cumbie in as HC.

Troy- No the other one, Chip Lindsey out (h/t DeNiro) Kentucky co-DC Jon Sumrall in (h/t DeNiro)

CSewe- Steve Addazio does not abide (h/t Serenity) Jay Norvell in (h/t Pate and Slider) UPDATE: 5 years, 9 mill. (h/t Jens)

Fresno State- DeBoer to UW, Tedford back for round 2 (h/t Jens)

Virginia- Bronco Mendenhall leaves on his own accord. (h/t Jens) UPDATE: Tony Elliott the new head Cav (h/t Slider)

FIU- Butch Davis hangs it up at the end of the year and retires. Our very own MikMac takes over (h/t Alabaster Yak and ZKobalt) Jay Mac and George Frazier to follow as AC's (h/t slider)

Temple- HC Rod Carey out (h/t DeNiro), fmr. UT RB Stan Drayton in.

Duke- David Cutcliffe reaches an agreement to depart (h/t DeNiro) UPDATE: aTm DC Mike Elko in (h/t DeNiro)

Nevada- Jay Norvell off to Ft. Collins, fmr. Oregon Co-DC Ken Wilson in (h/t DeNiro)

Oregon- Mario Cristobal offered extension (h/t Carolina), but declines to take his talents to South Beach, err, Coral Gables (h/t Alfred91 ) After a dalliance with Wilcox (h/t DeNiro), and Chip Kelly (h/t onealcd), Sweatshop U grabs Georgia DC Dan Lanning (h/t DeNiro), FSU OC Kenny Dillingham follows (h/t chase5687)

Akron-Tom Arth out (h/t DeNiro). Fmr. Oregon OC Joe Moorhead in

UMASS- Fires their HC, (h/t BCS) Walt Bell out. (h/t DeNiro) AZ DC Don Brown in. (h/t DeNiro)

Possibles:

Utah- Kyle Whittingham rumored to be contemplating retirement. (h/t Nik)

BGSU- Scot Loeffler, depsite pantsing PJ Fleck, may be on his way out. CDSS

Tulsa- Phillip Montgomery living on borrowed Tulsa time. CDSS.

ASU- Herm Edwards has some pretty flagrant stuff hanging over his head, hard to believe it doesn't cost him. Herm stays (h/t DeNiro)

N. Texas- Seth Littrell siting at about .500 UNT rolls UTSA, job saver?

UNLV- Arroyo 0-12. (h/t ahoelsken)

kNU- Frosty probably done before the end of the year according to Steve Sipple. Not so fast my friend, trev Alberts restructures Frosty's contract and announces he will be back for 2022 (h/t DeNiro) OC Matt Lubick, OL Greg Austin, RB Ryan Held, and QB Mario Verduzco sacrificed that Frosty may coach another day. No word on if Herbie has been put on an ice floe. Mark Whipple hired as QB/OC (h/t MKBuffs)


Other news:

Oregon St.- DC Tim Tibesar fired for failing to adequately defend the Beaver. (h/t DeNiro) Jonathon Smith extended to 2027 (h/t nik)

Urban Meyer- Gets his freak on after visiting the grand kids.

Mizzou- fires DL coach midseason, an impossibility I am told. (h/t Deniro)

Okie Lite- Gundy leverages a perpetual extension (h/t AlbasterYak)

James Franklin- James Franklin gets paid, bigly, 10 years, 7.5 mill per. (h/t Jens)

CU - Coach Rod fired, now embarking on second career in ebay sales. OC Darrin Cheviarini out. (h/t Carolina)

UW- OC John Donovon canned (h/t Serenity)

UT- Jeff Banks dispatching his stripper GF and her monkey on the recruiting trail (h/t Jens)

Minny- PJ Fleck gets a bigger boat to row with an extension and raise (h/t Albaster yak) PJ Fleck's contract is upped to $5Million, 7 years. (h/t DeNiro) OC Mike Sanford tossed out of the boat. (h/t DeNiro)

No. Ill.- HC Thomas Hammock extended (h/t DeNiro)

Nasser St.- Melvin Huckster takes down a new contract $8million a year (h/t Serenity)

Illinois- DC Ryan Walters extended

Miami- AD Blake James out (h/t DeNiro)

USF- DC Jeff Scott served up on a platter (h/t DeNiro)

BUYOUTS- A staggering $80.6 million so far (h/t Hawg1) That is the equivalent to 6 and one-half minutes of federal spending.

Liberty- Extends Hugh Freeze, $4Mill per. (h/t Serenity)

Bailer- Aranda extended (h/t ahoelsken)

Wake- Extends Clawson (h/t Carolina)

Indiana- fires OC (h/t DenIro) HC Tom Allen takes pay cut for underperforming, now there's an idea.

GT- fires OC Pateneude, CB Popovich, S Burns Chip Long as OC. (h/t DeNiro)

KU-DL coack Drake and CB coach Jackson out. (h/t slider)

BC- Jeff Hafley extended (h/t AlbasterYak)

Auburn- Mike Bobo is nono longer the OC (h/t Carolina)

Kentucky- Mark Stoops extended (h/t Albaster Yak)

ECU- Mike Houston extended (h/t DeNiro)

KjSU- AC's Courtney Messingham OC, and Jason Ray FB/TE out (h/t Deniro)

Ole Miss- Lane Kiffin extended (h/t DeNiro)

Penn. St.- Hires Manny Diaz as DC

BYU- Sitake extended (h/t Serenity and Nik)

Lots of work, if I missed anybody on the h/t's, sorry.
 
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There's Karl's OC with NFL and College Credentials!!!!

Captain America Lol GIF by mtv
 
I'm blown away by the audacity of some of the college greats to roll into the NFL and just be absurd

let us not forget the time Zach Thomas almost had to kick the **** out of Nick Saban for being an idiot

https://fansided.com/2021/01/21/nick-saban-dolphins-daunte-culpepper-zach-thomas-fight/

hilarious footnote given the apparent kicking of the kicker (link wouldn't work to bleacherreport)

Another prominent college football coach in former Florida and Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer is making the leap to the NFL this year as the new head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Glazer warned against employing some of the same tactics Saban did but doesn't foresee the same issues popping up for Meyer since he's "not one of those guys who tries to go after you and demean you."
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leftybuff said:
The Carousel begins to wind down Update

Open jobs:


Idaho- Paul Petrino out. (h/t SewallBeach)

Maine- HC Nick Charlton going to UCONN as OC. (h/t DeNiro)

Secondary Market-

none

Filled Jobs:

ND- Another heavyweight. Brian Kelly kicks Lucky the Leprechaun in the nuts and leaves with little to no notice. (h/t Jens, BCS, Carolina) DC Bryan Freeman, gets the gig (h/t DeNiro)

OU- Riley off to LA. , Brent Venables, in (h/t CUAviator Serenity Jens and DeNiro) Ole Miss OC Jeff Lebby to follow.

LSU- Ed O out. (h/t Carolina Buff), apparently when Ed O isn't covering up sexual assaults and turning in unsatisfactory W-L records, he is propositioning random women at gas stations, unfortunately, the last lady of the pump was an LSU muckety-muck's wife. (h/t 14er). Ed O's buyout is $17M (h/t Creebuzz), In a surprising move ND HC Brian Kelly goes to the bayou. (h/t Jens BCS and Carolina).

UW- Jimmy Lake fired. (h/t DeNiro, Serenity, Duff) $9.9Million payout. Kalen DeBoer, fmr. Fresno St. HC named HC (h/t DeNiro and BuffBronco)

USC- The big one. (h/t Deniro, also check Jens' USC Fires Clay Helton and Lincoln Riley megathreads). Mike Bohn swipes Lincoln Riley from OU (h/t Jens) DC Alex Grinch comes along (h/t Serenity/DeNiro), Kliff Kingsbury (h/t Jens), maybe Leach (h/t Jalapeno) DL Coach So'to out. (h/t Serenity)

Miami- Manny Diaz fired (h/t Slider) Mario Christobal (h/t Alfred91) in.

Florida- Dan Mullen is out. (h/t CUAviator) Greg Know interim (h/ DeNiro) Billy Napier, Louisiana HC hired (h/t Carolina/DeNiro)

VT- Hokie dances in the streets, Justin Fuente shown the door (h/t Jens). (h/t DeNiro) PSU DC Brent Fry is the guy.

Ohio- Tim Albin gets the job (h/t ahoelsken).

Louisiana- Napier off to Gainesville, Michael Desormeaux hired from within (h/t DeNiro)

Georgia Southern- Bold move and hired Clay Helton (h/t Alabaster Yak)

Texas Tech- Bailer AHC and LB coach Joey McGuire hired (h/t DeNiro) OC Sonny Cumbie retained (h/t DeNiro), WKU OC Zach Kittley the new OC (h/t DeNiro) Tim DeRuyter in as DC (h/t slider).

UCONN- Randy Edsall, Out. (h/t Deniro) Fmr. UCLA HC Jim Mora in (h/t DeNiro and CUAViator) Maine HC tagging along as OC (h/t DeNiro)

TCU- Gary Patterson gets the heave ho. (h/t BCS and Duff). TCU does a coaching drive by on SMU and snatches up Sonny Dykes. (h/t Carolina) A little bit of insider flavor, had a sit down with some TCU insiders over Thanksgiving, Patterson was told to rearrange his staff and let some AC's go, he declined, in a, shall we say, colorful manner. Two days later he was fired unceremoniously. Overplayed his hand. UPDATE: fmr. Buff Chidera Uzo-Diribe DL coach. (h/t Alabaster Yak)

SMU- Wastes no time hiring Rhett Lashlee, fmr. Miami OC (h/t DenIro)

WSU- Nick Rolovich fired for cause over vaccination status. (h/t BCS) Interim Jake Dickert in (h/t Sewall)

NMSU- Doug Martin out. (h/t DeNiro) Jerry Kill seizes the job (h/t Carolina)

Jacksonville St.- Fmr, WVU, Michigan, AZ HC, and ULM OC Rich Rodriguez gets the gig (h/t DeNiro)

La Tech- Skip Holtz fired (h/t DeNiro) Sonny Cumbie in as HC.

Troy- No the other one, Chip Lindsey out (h/t DeNiro) Kentucky co-DC Jon Sumrall in (h/t DeNiro)

CSewe- Steve Addazio does not abide (h/t Serenity) Jay Norvell in (h/t Pate and Slider) UPDATE: 5 years, 9 mill. (h/t Jens)

Fresno State- DeBoer to UW, Tedford back for round 2 (h/t Jens)

Virginia- Bronco Mendenhall leaves on his own accord. (h/t Jens) UPDATE: Tony Elliott the new head Cav (h/t Slider)

FIU- Butch Davis hangs it up at the end of the year and retires. Our very own MikMac takes over (h/t Alabaster Yak and ZKobalt) Jay Mac and George Frazier to follow as AC's (h/t slider)

Temple- HC Rod Carey out (h/t DeNiro), fmr. UT RB Stan Drayton in.

Duke- David Cutcliffe reaches an agreement to depart (h/t DeNiro) UPDATE: aTm DC Mike Elko in (h/t DeNiro)

Nevada- Jay Norvell off to Ft. Collins, fmr. Oregon Co-DC Ken Wilson in (h/t DeNiro)

Oregon- Mario Cristobal offered extension (h/t Carolina), but declines to take his talents to South Beach, err, Coral Gables (h/t Alfred91 ) After a dalliance with Wilcox (h/t DeNiro), and Chip Kelly (h/t onealcd), Sweatshop U grabs Georgia DC Dan Lanning (h/t DeNiro), FSU OC Kenny Dillingham follows (h/t chase5687)

Akron-Tom Arth out (h/t DeNiro). Fmr. Oregon OC Joe Moorhead in

UMASS- Fires their HC, (h/t BCS) Walt Bell out. (h/t DeNiro) AZ DC Don Brown in. (h/t DeNiro)

Possibles:

Utah- Kyle Whittingham rumored to be contemplating retirement. (h/t Nik)

BGSU- Scot Loeffler, depsite pantsing PJ Fleck, may be on his way out. CDSS

Tulsa- Phillip Montgomery living on borrowed Tulsa time. CDSS.

ASU- Herm Edwards has some pretty flagrant stuff hanging over his head, hard to believe it doesn't cost him. Herm stays (h/t DeNiro)

N. Texas- Seth Littrell siting at about .500 UNT rolls UTSA, job saver?

UNLV- Arroyo 0-12. (h/t ahoelsken)

kNU- Frosty probably done before the end of the year according to Steve Sipple. Not so fast my friend, trev Alberts restructures Frosty's contract and announces he will be back for 2022 (h/t DeNiro) OC Matt Lubick, OL Greg Austin, RB Ryan Held, and QB Mario Verduzco sacrificed that Frosty may coach another day. No word on if Herbie has been put on an ice floe. Mark Whipple hired as QB/OC (h/t MKBuffs)


Other news:

Oregon St.- DC Tim Tibesar fired for failing to adequately defend the Beaver. (h/t DeNiro) Jonathon Smith extended to 2027 (h/t nik)

Urban Meyer- Gets his freak on after visiting the grand kids.

Mizzou- fires DL coach midseason, an impossibility I am told. (h/t Deniro)

Okie Lite- Gundy leverages a perpetual extension (h/t AlbasterYak)

James Franklin- James Franklin gets paid, bigly, 10 years, 7.5 mill per. (h/t Jens)

CU - Coach Rod fired, now embarking on second career in ebay sales. OC Darrin Cheviarini out. (h/t Carolina)

UW- OC John Donovon canned (h/t Serenity)

UT- Jeff Banks dispatching his stripper GF and her monkey on the recruiting trail (h/t Jens)

Minny- PJ Fleck gets a bigger boat to row with an extension and raise (h/t Albaster yak) PJ Fleck's contract is upped to $5Million, 7 years. (h/t DeNiro) OC Mike Sanford tossed out of the boat. (h/t DeNiro)

No. Ill.- HC Thomas Hammock extended (h/t DeNiro)

Nasser St.- Melvin Huckster takes down a new contract $8million a year (h/t Serenity)

Illinois- DC Ryan Walters extended

Miami- AD Blake James out (h/t DeNiro)

USF- DC Jeff Scott served up on a platter (h/t DeNiro)

BUYOUTS- A staggering $80.6 million so far (h/t Hawg1) That is the equivalent to 6 and one-half minutes of federal spending.

Liberty- Extends Hugh Freeze, $4Mill per. (h/t Serenity)

Bailer- Aranda extended (h/t ahoelsken)

Wake- Extends Clawson (h/t Carolina)

Indiana- fires OC (h/t DenIro) HC Tom Allen takes pay cut for underperforming, now there's an idea.

GT- fires OC Pateneude, CB Popovich, S Burns Chip Long as OC. (h/t DeNiro)

KU-DL coack Drake and CB coach Jackson out. (h/t slider)

BC- Jeff Hafley extended (h/t AlbasterYak)

Auburn- Mike Bobo is nono longer the OC (h/t Carolina)

Kentucky- Mark Stoops extended (h/t Albaster Yak)

ECU- Mike Houston extended (h/t DeNiro)

KjSU- AC's Courtney Messingham OC, and Jason Ray FB/TE out (h/t Deniro)

Ole Miss- Lane Kiffin extended (h/t DeNiro)

Penn. St.- Hires Manny Diaz as DC

BYU- Sitake extended (h/t Serenity and Nik)

Lots of work, if I missed anybody on the h/t's, sorry.
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Maine hired Yale’s co-DC who is from Maine and played there.

 
Buffnik said:
Most head football coaches are assholes. Not being one is the exception.
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i don't hear stories of most HC's being assholes to their players. the media maybe, the fans maybe, but being an ass to your players seems the exception.

At least for the last forty years. I guess guys like Bo Schembechler could get away with it back in their era.
 
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i don't hear stories of most HC's being assholes to their players. the media maybe, the fans maybe, but being an ass to your players seems the exception.

At least for the last forty years. I guess guys like Bo Schembechler could get away with it back in their era.
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Start thinking about how many coaches you believe win through energy and positivity. Carroll, Dabo, Fleck... there aren't many. Most are egotistical control freaks who dehumanize the people they manage. Mostly a bunch of messed up people with a lot of marital problems & drinking.
 
WarBuff said:
And having “employees” for whom quitting was very difficult.
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The number of players in "the portal" may be more indicative of this than anything else.

Although, the cynic in me says that these 19-20 year old kids are just learning what most people learn when they have to start "working for a living:" most bosses suck. They almost universally live on a scale of suckiness; some are worse than others, but the "good" ones really are pretty rare and we often don't recognize that we have one until either they or we have moved on.
 
WarBuff said:
And having “employees” for whom quitting was very difficult.
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Which is why only certain types of college coaches succeed in the NFL. In the pros, you've got to deal with employees who are wealthy adults with union & attorneys supporting them. In college, you've got mostly the Briles model of having players with no power under the threat of having their one opportunity in life ruined if they don't keep their mouths shut & obey.
 
Buffnik said:
Start thinking about how many coaches you believe win through energy and positivity. Carroll, Dabo, Fleck... there aren't many. Most are egotistical control freaks who dehumanize the people they manage. Mostly a bunch of messed up people with a lot of marital problems & drinking.
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I get that. I think where you and I are disconnected is that I see a wide space between "being an asshole" and having an abundance of "energy and positivity".

no disagreement that many or even most are messed up; I posted recently that I have a hypothesis that people exceptionally gifted in one area (e.g. coaching) tend to be exceptionally deficient in another (e.g. alcoholism)
 
buffedup said:
In college, it’s good to be the king. He can rule with an iron fist over his fiefdom.
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I think this has changed. With the transfer portal and immediate playing time after transferring, college coaches have lost a lot of power over players. This is a good thing.
 
BuffsNYC said:
I think this has changed. With the transfer portal and immediate playing time after transferring, college coaches have lost a lot of power over players. This is a good thing.
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It's definitely changing. And we've seen a number of college coaches who really don't like it.

Kind of hard to go from the culture you've had where you're king of your world to the point where you might have even a local or university police force & DAs who run things by you before processing a complaint against someone in your organization... to having to learn to lead & manage within a structure where you don't have that level of power & protection. Where others have rights beyond what you grant them & you can be exposed and held accountable for bad behavior.
 
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